| Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A new Nakba? | |
| Posted by: | John Hawkes | |
| Date/Time: | 07/01/24 13:27:00 |
| Mr Carter 'Now, after over g weeks of posting, this thread has reached 100 posts and has become totally unwieldy: I propose that we end it now as everything necessary has been said, multiple times, and I'm starting a new thread, looking to the future rather than the past'. I look forward to this but before we go let's get back to the basic facts. 1) Hamas that 'governs' Gaza is a proscribed terrorist organisation made up of Islamo-fascists. 2) It, like most middle east politico/terrorist organisations claiming to be inspired by Islam, is a male dominated, misogynistic group. 3) They are fascists because of what their Charter declares is their ultimate aim - namely the obliteration of the state of Israel and the Jews that reside there. 4) On 7th October 2023 (seems such a long time ago) Hamas invaded Israel from Gaza, massacred hundreds of Jewish women and children and still holds some of them hostage. 4) Israel fought back with the aim of obliterating an enemy on its borders determined to destroy it. 5) The UK acted similarly in WWII when German Nazi fascists attacked us. 6) Doubtless in the fog of war and under such existential threat Israel made horrendous tactical mistakes that caused many innocent civilian deaths. 7) But a Hamas tactic is to imbed its fighters amongst the civilian population putting them at great risk. 8) It has been noted that Egypt, an adjoining Islamic state has been most unwilling to give Hamas much support, politically or by allowing fleeing Gaza civilians to cross its borders. 9) Hamas has made no effort to negotiate a settlement because this would contravene its Charter and acknowledge Israel's right to exist. 10) Israel is a vibrant, sophisticated westernised country. 11) Gaza and Israel's other Islamic neighbours are backward countries with no plausible claims of having improved the the state of the world economically, socially or artistically. 12) Palestine is such a wonderful country that hundreds of thousands of its citizens have left to reside in western countries as they see no future at home because of its flawed governance. 13) Of the tens of thousands now in the UK (why ?) they seem to spend most of their time marching and protesting and disrupting our way of life, at great expense to our taxpayers. 14) Why ? We have no dog in this fight other than not being willing to politically stand aside as Israel is attacked. 15) Simplistically and without going back to the British Mandate and UN resolutions in 1947, today Hamas represents barbaric 'badness' and Israel represents an imperfect 'goodness'. 16) Do people not see this ? |