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Topic: Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......
Posted by: John Hawkes
Date/Time: 01/12/23 13:18:00

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Topic: Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......

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Mr Rose

You are so right to raise this issue as it is symptomatic of the anti-semitic and pro-Islamist sentiment which seems to be beginning to dominate this country

Israel is a predominately Jewish yet a multi-faith  independent and westernised democratic state.

Arab Israelis make up 20% to 25% of the population and 10 members of the Knesset are Arabs.

Interestingly the official title of Pakistan is the 'Islamic Republic of Pakistan' which would be disconcerting for any Hindu, Christian or Jew that might reside there.

Jews for some reason (the killing of Christ, a Jew, by Jews ?) have been a uniquely persecuted race for millennia and they are the only race that has been, by the Germans, subject to a state sponsored program of total elimination.

I do not understand why Palestinians and other Arabs are anti-Jewish.

Perhaps I should read my Old Testament.

Hamas on the other hand is a proscribed Arab terrorist organisation.

It rules Gaza with a rod of iron with no mandate from the populace.

Its charter (google it) makes chilling reading and is indubitably racist.

A similar organisation, the PLO rules the Palestinian West Bank in the same manner.

Leaders of both organisations themselves live in cosy exile in Qatar.

Both organisations are vicious and totally run by men with a brutal and misogynistic mindset that seems to be dominant in Islamist countries.

On 7th October Hamas invaded Israel and further attacks have taken place.

Wikipedia reports these incidents thus -

'On 7 October, over 100 civilians were killed in the Be'eri massacre, including women and children; and over 270 attendees were killed at a music festival in Re'im. As of 10 October, over 100 people had been reported killed in the Kfar Aza massacre, with the total death toll unknown. Nine people were fatally shot at a bus shelter in Sderot. At least four people were reported killed in Kuseife. At least 400 wounded were treated in Ashkelon, while 280 others were reported in Beer Sheva, 60 of which were in a serious condition. In the north, injuries from rocket attacks were reported in Tel Aviv'.

So back to your point - why does Palestine and Palestinian violence get such a sympathetic hearing from the BBC and much of the media whilst Israeli reaction does not ?

Apart from historic and ongoing antisemitism, I would suggest -

1) Jews are considered 'white' and Palestinians 'non-white' and the prevailing political belief is that the world's problems and issues are caused by 'whites' and that the majority of victims of these are 'non-white'.

2) The predominately 'white' BBC management feels a need to demonstrate its diversity and anti-racism which it does by the presenters it uses and the slant it puts on news items as you illustrate in your post.

3) The Palestinians have for years successfully played the role of 'colonialist oppressed' and portrayed Israel as colonialist.

4) The BBC needs to recapture a 'yoof' audience for news and there is nothing the young enjoy more than the self-satisfaction of supporting anyone they are told is oppressed by 'the whites'.

Non-traditional media tells them this in 10 second videos - so much easier to absorb than a serious written analysis of any political situation.

That being said and to give the BBC some credit, should anyone still have a sympathy for Hamas they should read the latest report of how Hamas treated its hostages captured on 7th October when it also slaughtered 1200 Jews and took 240 hostage.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67556006


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......27/11/23 10:00:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......27/11/23 22:26:00 Steven Rose
      Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......28/11/23 11:15:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......28/11/23 21:35:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......29/11/23 09:08:00 Robert Wheeler
         Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......30/11/23 12:27:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......29/11/23 14:56:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......30/11/23 21:30:00 Steven Rose
      Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......01/12/23 13:18:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......01/12/23 15:01:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......04/12/23 19:15:00 Jenny Stone
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......04/12/23 21:08:00 Robert Wheeler
                  Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......05/12/23 11:29:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......05/12/23 14:03:00 Steven Rose
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......05/12/23 17:02:00 Michael Brown
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......05/12/23 17:19:00 Robert Wheeler
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......05/12/23 17:52:00 Philippa Bond
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......08/12/23 12:57:00 John Hawkes
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......12/12/23 22:51:00 Philippa Bond
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......12/12/23 23:52:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......30/12/23 18:44:00 Lucille Grant
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......08/12/23 12:53:00 John Hawkes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......08/12/23 12:47:00 John Hawkes
                     Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......08/12/23 12:31:00 John Hawkes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......08/12/23 17:24:00 Ivonne Holliday
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......08/12/23 21:43:00 Steven Rose
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......13/12/23 10:44:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......15/12/23 12:08:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......09/12/23 16:20:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......13/12/23 17:28:00 Steven Rose
      Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......14/12/23 23:12:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......15/12/23 11:50:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......15/12/23 14:16:00 Jane Carter
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......15/12/23 16:04:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......17/12/23 09:48:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......15/12/23 15:11:00 Steven Rose
      Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......17/12/23 09:27:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......17/12/23 10:07:00 Clifford Cowell
         Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......18/12/23 15:08:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......18/12/23 16:12:00 Clifford Cowell
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......18/12/23 23:02:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......19/12/23 12:05:00 Steven Rose
   Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......17/12/23 20:17:00 Steven Rose
      Reply20/12/23 23:43:00 Richard Carter
         Re:Reply21/12/23 09:26:00 Robert Wheeler
            Re:Re:Reply21/12/23 09:46:00 Barbara Stevens
            Re:Re:Reply21/12/23 14:45:00 Richard Carter
         Re:Reply21/12/23 11:40:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Reply21/12/23 14:54:00 Richard Carter
               Re:Re:Re:Reply21/12/23 15:03:00 Caroline Whitehead
               Re:Re:Re:Reply21/12/23 15:38:00 John Hawkes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/12/23 17:01:00 Steven Rose
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/12/23 20:48:00 Richard Carter
   Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......21/12/23 23:59:00 Steven Rose
      Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......22/12/23 09:50:00 Richard Carter
         Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......22/12/23 14:19:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......22/12/23 16:48:00 Richard Carter
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......22/12/23 17:48:00 John Hawkes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......23/12/23 12:07:00 Richard Carter
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......24/12/23 09:57:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......22/12/23 15:08:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......22/12/23 17:42:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......22/12/23 18:34:00 Ivonne Holliday
      Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......22/12/23 15:57:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......22/12/23 16:21:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......23/12/23 01:42:00 Ed Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......23/12/23 11:07:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......23/12/23 11:19:00 Caroline Whitehead
               Reply23/12/23 11:38:00 Michael Ixer
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......23/12/23 12:12:00 Richard Carter
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......24/12/23 11:44:00 John Hawkes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......24/12/23 13:56:00 Richard Carter
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel......24/12/23 15:03:00 Steven Rose
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...24/12/23 14:33:00 Steven Rose
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...24/12/23 15:15:00 Ed Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...29/12/23 17:44:00 Jonathan Callaway
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...30/12/23 15:09:00 Lucille Grant
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...30/12/23 17:08:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...30/12/23 23:23:00 Philippa Bond
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...30/12/23 23:35:00 Philippa Bond
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...31/12/23 09:36:00 Lucille Grant
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...31/12/23 16:09:00 Philippa Bond
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...31/12/23 16:17:00 Philippa Bond
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...31/12/23 17:41:00 Lucille Grant
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...31/12/23 17:42:00 Lucille Grant
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...31/12/23 18:49:00 Steven Rose
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...31/12/23 18:54:00 Lucille Grant
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...02/01/24 00:43:00 Joe Cairns
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...08/01/24 13:50:00 John Hawkes
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...08/01/24 15:22:00 John Hawkes
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...03/01/24 14:11:00 Philippa Bond
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Peaceful march of Jews in London to support Israel...03/01/24 18:13:00 Philippa Bond
                                                   A new Nakba?03/01/24 19:24:00 Richard Carter
                                                      Re:A new Nakba?03/01/24 21:00:00 Robert Wheeler
                                                         Re:Re:A new Nakba?03/01/24 22:10:00 Steven Rose
                                                            Re:Re:Re:A new Nakba?03/01/24 23:52:00 Richard Carter
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:A new Nakba?04/01/24 08:01:00 Steven Rose
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A new Nakba?04/01/24 08:41:00 Richard Carter
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A new Nakba?04/01/24 21:48:00 Lucille Grant
                                                         Re:Re:A new Nakba?03/01/24 23:40:00 Richard Carter
                                                            Re:Re:Re:A new Nakba?04/01/24 13:49:00 Philippa Bond
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:A new Nakba?04/01/24 15:37:00 Steven Rose
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A new Nakba?04/01/24 16:54:00 Richard Carter
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A new Nakba?04/01/24 17:15:00 Richard Carter
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A new Nakba?07/01/24 13:27:00 John Hawkes
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A new Nakba?07/01/24 14:26:00 Barbara Stevens
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A new Nakba?07/01/24 20:39:00 Mike Warman
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A new Nakba?08/01/24 18:38:00 Lucille Grant
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A new Nakba?08/01/24 18:45:00 Philippa Bond
                                                         Re:Re:A new Nakba?04/01/24 21:44:00 Lucille Grant

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