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Topic: Not the Conservators' Q&A
Posted by: John Cameron
Date/Time: 29/09/14 08:11:00

@ Jonty

"it sets out the professional valuation they obtained for the so-called ransom strip:"

The A to the Conservators Q sets out no such valuation, it merely reports the number. The valuation itself is not released by the Conservators, and until it is released by the Conservators so that residents may read it, it remains conjecture as to what it says.

The access, as drawn in the permission, was a ransom strip.  The Conservators Chair David Devons is on the record saying that he had no knowledge of ransom strips.  This is a lie, as the Conservators were well aware they had a ransom strip, they clearly chose not to use it.  Their decision to sell the school access for £1, is enough evidence to support this.  They CHOSE to charge £1 as the school was "free".  The more likely explanation was to load the luxury flats cost base to avoid affordable homes by making the viability uneconomic.  The Council loaded the flat viability with 100% of the £4.5m acquisition cost.  Therefore getting a "free" site for the school. Voodoo accounting.

The Conservators' refusal to release the independent valuation doesn't pass the smell test; if they release it in its entirely, (it will include the letter of instruction in the report), clarity as to how the value was arrived at may begin to appear.  Drivers Jonas, who prepared the report, should also be made available to explain why there was not an undersale to the tune of millions.  Not a lot to ask, really, to help restore the Conservators shredded credibility?

Jonty will also have noticed that the Conservators on Friday added a series of Putney Hospital sub committee minutes to their website, in respect of Putney Hospital.  Whether this is the PH subcommitee in its entirely is unclear, as the notes cover...

8 meetings with Wandsworth from August 2011 / December 2011

3 meetings with Wandsworth in January 2012

2 meetings without Wandsworth in late 2012

1 meeting without Wandsworth in 2014

The minutes portray a series of meetings from two parties acting as one, to develop the site.  There is nothing to indicate that the Conservators had the slightest reservation about what they were doing, no debate among the Conservators about what residents may think, no argument as to the consequences or the legality or advice they needed. There is no detail on independent valuation advice or discussion about the advice they received.   Nothing about how or when they voted or decided to sign the easement, to approve the sale, nothing about the negotiations or the threats that we know Wandsworth made. In essence they are team meeting notes on the day to day stuff to do with the site's development.

It's no wonder they were reluctant to publish them.

The minutes are damning for what they don't say; a lack of rigour in defending the common, a complete disregard for good corporate governance in the way the deal appears to have been signed.  Nowhere is there a board minute to be seen that debated the sale, the rights and wrongs, the repercussions.  Nada.

Or given the very substantial gaps in the minutes ie nothing before 8/11, nothing for the whole of 2013 and a single meeting this year, are the Conservators being highly selective in what they have published.

A DUMMIES GUIDE TO WIMBLEDON COMMON GOLF AMENITIES AND CAR PARKS

There is one golf course ON Wimbledon Common, shared by two separate golf clubs

There is a second golf course, adjacent to Wimbledon Common, which has a private car park ON Wimbledon Common, with a gate and signs that says Private.  This car park WAS common, and according to Devons is "a temporary arrangement".  Which is a lie, it is the car park of the golf club.

AN IDIOTS GUIDE TO RIGHTS OF WAY TO THE HOSPITAL

The site is landlocked and there are no formal rights of way registered at HMLR. Without a new formal legal easement granting the rights the site could not be accessed by vehicle, as a matter of right, day in day out.  There are no prescriptive rights of way for vehicles; prescriptive rights cannot be applied to a new development.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 09:57:00 John Cameron
   Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 10:07:00 Caroline Whitehead
      Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 11:02:00 Sue Hammond
         Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 11:19:00 Sue Hammond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 11:44:00 David Austin
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 11:49:00 Caroline Whitehead
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 11:50:00 Jonty Nicholls
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 12:03:00 John Cameron
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 12:08:00 Nicholas Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 12:47:00 Sue Hammond
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 12:53:00 John Cameron
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 13:13:00 David Austin
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 13:19:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 17:13:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 17:43:00 Nicholas Evans
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 18:51:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A28/09/14 19:25:00 Robert Wheeler
                                          Re:Bad Education28/09/14 22:30:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                             Re:Re:Bad Education28/09/14 23:12:00 David Ainsworth
                                             Re:Re:Transparency28/09/14 23:18:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                Not the Conservators' Q&A29/09/14 08:11:00 John Cameron
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A29/09/14 09:03:00 Andy Pike
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A29/09/14 09:16:00 Sue Hammond
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not the Conservators' Q&A29/09/14 09:24:00 Andy Pike
                                          Who Do You Think You Are Kidding Mr P? (with apologies to Dads Army)29/09/14 12:05:00 John Cameron
                                             Re:Who Do You Think You Are Kidding Mr P? (with apologies to Dads Army)29/09/14 12:50:00 Stephen Walker
                                                Who do you think you are kidding Mr Devons?29/09/14 16:35:00 John Cameron
                                             Re:Who Do You Think You Are Kidding Mr P? (with apologies to Dads Army)29/09/14 13:00:00 Andy Pike
                                                Re:Re:Who Do You Think You Are Kidding Mr P? (with apologies to Dads Army)29/09/14 13:29:00 John Cameron
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Who Do You Think You Are Kidding Mr P? (with apologies to Dads Army)29/09/14 13:53:00 Andy Pike
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Who Do You Think You Are Kidding Mr P? (with apologies to Dads Army)29/09/14 16:08:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                         Roof top playground for Putney Green Primary revealed 29/09/14 16:25:00 John Cameron
                                                            Re:Roof top playground for Putney Green Primary revealed 29/09/14 16:29:00 Sue Hammond
                                                               Can the Conservators Produce the Papers, Now? 30/09/14 08:07:00 John Cameron
                                                                  Re:Can the Conservators Produce the Papers, Now? 30/09/14 15:57:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                     Re:Re:Can the Conservators Produce the Papers, Now? 30/09/14 16:53:00 Robert Wheeler
                                                                        Re: Massive fraud by Deloitte01/10/14 00:05:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                           Why were valuations not queried by the Conservators?01/10/14 07:52:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                                                           Re:Re: Massive cover-up by Conservators?01/10/14 09:10:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                              Re:Re:Re: Massive cover-up by Conservators?01/10/14 09:24:00 David Austin
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re: Massive cover-up by Conservators?01/10/14 10:04:00 John Cameron
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Massive cover-up by Conservators?01/10/14 13:03:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Massive cover-up by Conservators?01/10/14 13:07:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Massive cover-up by Conservators?01/10/14 13:12:00 John Cameron
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Massive cover-up by Conservators?01/10/14 14:13:00 Margaret Brett
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Massive cover-up by Conservators?01/10/14 15:48:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                Simon Lee and Me (with apologies to Marley)02/10/14 08:49:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                   Re:Simon Lee and Me (with apologies to Marley)02/10/14 09:06:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                      Simon Lee and Me (sorry it's molto longo)09/10/14 11:48:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                         Re:Simon Lee and Me (sorry it's molto longo)09/10/14 12:39:00 David Austin
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Simon Lee and Me (sorry it's molto longo)09/10/14 17:47:00 Andy Pike
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Simon Lee and Me (sorry it's molto longo) 10/10/14 12:19:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Simon Lee and Me (more Spanish)10/10/14 23:41:00 Alan Goldman
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Simon Lee and Me (more Spanish)11/10/14 09:29:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Simon Lee and Me (more Spanish)11/10/14 09:59:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Simon Lee and Me (more Spanish)11/10/14 10:16:00 Robert Wheeler
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Simon Lee and Me (more Spanish)11/10/14 13:26:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Simon Lee and Me (more Spanish)11/10/14 13:30:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Simon Lee and Me (more Spanish)11/10/14 13:41:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Simon Lee and Me (more Spanish)11/10/14 14:52:00 Tim Watson
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Simon Lee and Me (more Spanish)11/10/14 18:58:00 Robert Wheeler
                                                                                                                                       C Whitehead, "My Serious Allegations" about the Conservators13/10/14 11:11:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                                          Re:C Whitehead, "My Serious Allegations" about the Conservators13/10/14 12:31:00 Tim Watson
                                                                                                                                             Divorce13/10/14 12:50:00 Stephen Walker
                                                                                                                                                Re:Divorce13/10/14 13:36:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                                                                   Re:Re:Divorce13/10/14 13:53:00 Stephen Walker
                                                                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Divorce13/10/14 15:37:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Divorce14/10/14 14:07:00 Tim Watson
                                                                                                                                                Re:Divorce13/10/14 13:50:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                                                                   Re:Re:Divorce13/10/14 16:50:00 Robert Wheeler
                                                                                                                                                      Transparency or Fluff?14/10/14 08:14:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                                                         Re:Transparency or Fluff?14/10/14 09:05:00 Andy Pike
                                                                                                                                                            Re:Re:Transparency or Fluff?14/10/14 10:42:00 Robert Wheeler
                                                                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Transparency or Fluff?14/10/14 14:18:00 Lucille Grant
                                                                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Transparency or Fluff?14/10/14 16:21:00 Robert Wheeler
                                                                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Transparency or Fluff?14/10/14 17:17:00 Lucille Grant
                                                                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Transparency or Fluff?14/10/14 17:39:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Transparency or Fluff?14/10/14 17:55:00 Tim Watson
                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Transparency or Fluff?14/10/14 18:04:00 Andy Pike
                                                                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Transparency or Fluff?14/10/14 18:11:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                                                                                                 Gates to Manual, a Complaint14/10/14 20:58:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                                                                                 Gates to Manual, a Complaint14/10/14 20:58:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                                                                                    Simon Lee and Me (Simon hasn't replied)18/10/14 12:38:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                                                                                       Re:Simon Lee and Me (Simon hasn't replied)18/10/14 13:06:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Simon Lee and Me (Simon hasn't replied)18/10/14 14:43:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Simon Lee and Me (Simon hasn't replied)18/10/14 15:43:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Simon Lee and Me (Simon hasn't replied)18/10/14 22:51:00 Andy Pike
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Simon Lee and Me (Simon hasn't replied)19/10/14 09:44:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re:Simon Lee and Me (Simon hasn't replied)19/10/14 10:00:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re:Simon Lee and Me (Simon hasn't replied)19/10/14 23:18:00 Andy Pike
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Simon Lee and Me (Simon hasn't replied)19/10/14 11:26:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Transparency or Fluff?19/10/14 23:40:00 Andy Pike

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