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Topic: Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters
Posted by: Roland Gilmore
Date/Time: 16/08/11 01:20:00

I think some people have lost their moral compass. We know that politicians did (the expenses scandal). We know that the media did (Murdoch/News of the World etc). It seems that some Forum contributors have too. Young people tend to be acutely aware of adult hypocrisy.  (David Starkey should stick to talking about buildings and relics.)

What would be “uplifting” is if someone in power/government would announce that that the “polite” looters (merchant bankers’ et al) who have effectively impoverished the majority were brought to justice. They did not care about the consequences of their crimes did they? They have ruined the lives of multitudes long term and destroyed businesses too. There is no remorse among those criminals. They may not have committed arson or killed anyone (directly) but they are all responsible to some degree for the vacuum of our immoral society those young people are set to inherit. The hope of many for their future has been drastically curtailed.

The morals that govern politicians at the highest levels are those of The City. Collusion between the powerful elite of  this and other countries, governments, Moody’s, S&P, Fitch, Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch etc etc; they are the biggest criminals out there. The FBI knew in 2004 that 90% of what is now known as Sub-Prime mortgages were fraudulent. What did Bush do? What has Obama done? The ratings organisations knew that the packaged loans they classified as AAA were nothing of the sort. It was the lenders who were writing the lies into the loan applications and our institutions who bought them. Those lenders knew what they were doing; ultimately exporting USA debt to the rest of the world culminating in the 2008 economic collapse. Economic terrorism has ruled for more than a decade and continues to do so. What many young people are aware of is that those who perpetrated those frauds were effectively given immunity and even rewarded (e.g. Fred Goodwin). Where is the FSA report on the crash? Why has no one been jailed? Is the FSA report still being edited like an Iraq war document for public consumption?

Now what is the moral difference between the white collar, “polite”, looters and those who went out looting last week?  Is it that the full force of the law should only be brought down on the latter; benefits removed and made homeless? Is that what will happen for those who colluded in the enormous fraud that remains unpunished after more than 2 years. Are you not angry with the organised criminals and fraudsters known as bankers anymore? Shouldn’t their houses and the proceeds of their crimes (pension funds etc) be confiscated? Or should there be a law for one and a different law/justice for the other?  Don’t judge lest you be judged – measure for measure.


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Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters12/08/11 16:36:00 Heather Campbell
   Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters12/08/11 17:36:00 Victoria Diamond
   Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters12/08/11 18:22:00 Adam Bailey
      Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters12/08/11 19:21:00 Heather Campbell
         Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters12/08/11 19:58:00 Simon Knight
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters12/08/11 20:12:00 Roland Gilmore
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters12/08/11 20:20:00 Ian Everley
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters12/08/11 20:26:00 Simon Knight
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters12/08/11 21:01:00 Roland Gilmore
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters12/08/11 21:12:00 Sue Riggs
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters12/08/11 21:26:00 Ian Everley
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters12/08/11 22:01:00 Roland Gilmore
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters12/08/11 22:30:00 Ian Everley
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters13/08/11 07:49:00 Roland Gilmore
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters13/08/11 08:44:00 Heather Campbell
                                 Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters13/08/11 09:32:00 Adam Tripp
                                    Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters13/08/11 10:54:00 Sue Hammond
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters13/08/11 09:40:00 Simon Knight
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters13/08/11 12:15:00 Hugh Walton
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters13/08/11 12:52:00 John Hawkes
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters13/08/11 15:18:00 Sue Hammond
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters13/08/11 17:20:00 Heather Campbell
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters20/08/11 00:11:00 David P Derby
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters17/08/11 16:33:00 Bernard Doring
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters13/08/11 18:36:00 Ian Everley
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters13/08/11 22:16:00 John Hawkes
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters13/08/11 23:34:00 Ian Everley
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters14/08/11 00:55:00 Michael Ixer
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters14/08/11 01:21:00 Ian Everley
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters14/08/11 09:11:00 Sue Hammond
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters14/08/11 09:40:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters14/08/11 10:12:00 Sue Hammond
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters14/08/11 12:20:00 Jason Lynham
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters14/08/11 13:03:00 Lucille Grant
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters14/08/11 14:24:00 Heather Campbell
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters14/08/11 14:35:00 Sue Hammond
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters14/08/11 15:48:00 Sue Riggs
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters14/08/11 16:19:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters14/08/11 16:50:00 Heather Campbell
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters14/08/11 17:17:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                           Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters15/08/11 10:43:00 Pete Aron
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters19/08/11 12:30:00 Richard Carter
   Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters15/08/11 11:41:00 R Lucas
      Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters16/08/11 01:20:00 Roland Gilmore
         Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters16/08/11 09:38:00 Pete Aron
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters16/08/11 11:23:00 Roland Gilmore
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters17/08/11 16:43:00 Bernard Doring
         Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters16/08/11 10:39:00 Sarah Roberts
         Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters16/08/11 12:19:00 R Lucas
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters16/08/11 15:56:00 Heather Campbell
         Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters16/08/11 16:42:00 Lucille Grant
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters16/08/11 17:34:00 Roland Gilmore
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters16/08/11 19:32:00 Ian Everley
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters16/08/11 19:55:00 Caroline Whitehead
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters16/08/11 20:13:00 Ian Everley
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters17/08/11 09:11:00 Lucille Grant
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters17/08/11 10:21:00 Ian Everley
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters17/08/11 16:59:00 Sue Hammond
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters17/08/11 19:19:00 Lucille Grant
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters17/08/11 15:40:00 R Lucas
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters16/08/11 20:46:00 Sarah Roberts
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia defends the decision in The Times 17/08/11 07:49:00 Sian Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia defends the decision in The Times 17/08/11 09:12:00 Lucille Grant
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters16/08/11 20:47:00 Sarah Roberts
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters16/08/11 20:47:00 Sarah Roberts
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters17/08/11 13:13:00 Roland Gilmore
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters17/08/11 20:16:00 Ian Everley
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters18/08/11 10:17:00 Sarah Roberts
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters18/08/11 11:29:00 Bernard Doring
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters19/08/11 14:50:00 Ian Everley
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters19/08/11 15:09:00 Richard Carter
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters19/08/11 15:24:00 Heather Campbell
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters19/08/11 15:31:00 Ian Everley
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters19/08/11 15:35:00 Richard Carter
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters19/08/11 15:42:00 Ian Everley
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters19/08/11 15:49:00 Richard Carter
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters20/08/11 19:36:00 Sue Riggs
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters21/08/11 19:33:00 Ian Everley
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters22/08/11 10:54:00 Lucille Grant
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters22/08/11 18:41:00 Ian Everley
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters19/08/11 17:38:00 John Hawkes
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Govindia wants to evict rioters21/08/11 19:28:00 Ian Everley

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