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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply
Posted by: John Hawkes
Date/Time: 13/04/26 14:17:00

Mr Callaway

''And somewhere in all this there are the Palestinians, most of whom who also want to live in peace and security.  Un
fortunately many of them have also been radicalised by what they see as years of oppression and discrimination.  This takes its worst form in the illegal activities of the Jewish settlers on the West Bank who seem to be able to attack Palestinian communities with complete impunity.  It would be a starting point if they were reined in.'

I agree with much of what you say.

But please do not forget that Israel is surrounded by those Islamic countries and sheltered terrorist groups that wish to annihilate it.

And to many in the West (see this Forum) and in the Middle East that is OK.

Thus they have to defend themselves.

And in a war, that is a messy business in which many innocents suffer.

The Islamist terrorist groups and these aggressive countries that support them do not care.

They want Israel gone from the face of the earth.

A picture of a dead baby is a great recruiting poster for the gullible, be they fighters in the region or sympathisers in the West.

You say you cannot think of a resolution.

There is not one until negotiation achieves a peaceful settlement with Israel guaranteed the right to exist by its enemies.  

I am sure you would agree that the few attacks by extreme Israelis on Palestinians are nothing in comparison to attacks made by Palestinian jihadists on Jews on and since October 2023.

Israel does attempt to 'rein them in'.

Who is reining in Hamas and other genocidal Iran backed terrorist groups ?

Many are not even criticised but are lauded as 'freedom fighters'.

Usually by Palestinians who have decided not to fight for their beliefs with weapons in their homeland but on the safe streets of London with placards.

'So there must be another way but I cannot think what that is'.

There is not one until negotiation achieves a peaceful settlement with Israel guaranteed the right to exist by its enemies

'But I do believe what we have witnessed over the last few  years since the appalling massacres of October 2023 has done little but harm to Israel's security and its international standing.  That surely must be a matter of huge concern for all those who wish Israel a secure and peaceful future'.

Those that 'wish Israel a secure and peaceful future' know that it will only be secured by negotiation but also backed up by force.

Force against the many who do NOT wish such a future for it.

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