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Posted by: Gerry Boyce
Date/Time: 11/04/26 22:23:00

'if the IDF intended to exterminate the Palestinian population of Gaza, which is what is meant by genocide'

I thought all of this had been thrashed out months ago. The literal meaning of genocide that you give above is not the same as the definition given by the UN in the The Genocide Convention:

'The popular understanding of what constitutes genocide tends to be broader than the content of the norm under international law. Article II of the Genocide Convention contains a narrow definition of the crime of genocide, which includes two main elements:

A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and
A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:
Killing members of the group
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.'

I'm no legal expert, I am guessing neither are you, however, we can both apply a layman's understanding to the above and assess what we know about the conflict in relation to this.

We can arrive at different conclusions, without resorting to accusations of; blood-libel, anti-semitism, anti-zionism etc.

In due course, hopefully, a court will decide. It won't necessarily be the end of the matter, or 'the truth'. It will be a legal judgement that may or may not be accepted by individuals.

Attempting to shut down conversation or endlessly categorise people according to their opinions, or accuse them of vile ulterior motives and prejudices etc etc etc. is, at the very least, an extremely tedious exercise, let alone highly insulting.

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