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Posted by: Steven Rose
Date/Time: 10/04/26 18:18:00

The difference between the statement that the ICJ had ruled that South Africa’s accusation of genocide against Israel was plausible and the fact that the court had only ruled that the Palestinians had a plausible right to be protected from genocide was evidently important enough for the President of the ICJ to make  the distinction. She clearly did not believe that it was a ‘distinction without a difference’, otherwise she would not have gone on the BBC to clarify matters. Your version falsely suggests that the court had arrived at a judgment on the case against Israel whereas she made it clear that the court had done no such thing.

But let’s not waste time quoting other people’s opinions, whether learned judges or not. Here is a question for you. If Israel is guilty of genocide, which means the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, ethnic or religious group (as a whole or in part), why did the IDF repeatedly give advance warning of their attacks in order to reduce civilian casualties? Why bother, if it was their intention to kill as many civilians as possible? As a matter of interest, has any army in the modern history of warfare other than the IDF ever given warning of their intention to attack a particular target?


And by the way, it is absurd to accuse me of invoking the Holocaust when that is exactly what you have been doing with your reference to the Brownshirts. You could have compared the thugs among the Israeli settlers to any number of sectarian groups from the Loyalists in Belfast to the Hindu nationalists in Ayodhya. But you chose to compare them to the Brownshirts, a deliberate and offensive slur intended to equate Israelis with Nazis, which is a comparison often made by anti-Semites (with whom I am sure you would not wish to be associated). You have a perfect right to criticise the actions of Israeli settlers and the Israeli government but leave the Nazis out of it. Or as John Cleese put it, ‘Don’t talk about the war’.


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