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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Reply
Posted by: Steven Rose
Date/Time: 07/04/26 18:25:00

Well, Ivonne, Israel withdrew unilaterally from Gaza in 2005 but for the next 18 years was subjected to continual rocket attacks from Hamas and Islamic Jihad, culminating in the massacre of October 7. Terrorism from Gaza has blighted the lives of Israelis living in the south of the country. At the same time rocket attacks from Hezbollah in Lebanon forced thousands of Israelis living in the north of the country to leave their homes.  These groups have been armed and funded by Iran, a country which has threatened to wipe Israel off the map and is a short step away from constructing a nuclear bomb.

The Israelis have tried to neutralise these threats, attacking Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in Lebanon and now the Iranian regime itself. The response of many people, including contributors to the Forum, has been to criticise to Israel while glossing over the crimes committed by their enemies and downplaying the threat they pose. So we have been told that ‘the war didn’t start on October 7’, only around 1000 people were killed on that day, Hamas doesn’t have the capability to kill every Jewish citizen of Israel as written in their constitution, Iran’s nuclear threat is ‘non-existent’ and so on.

While it is perfectly legitimate to criticise the actions of the Israeli government, the conduct of the war by the IDF and the behaviour of some of the settlers on the West Bank, some of the language used has been extreme. The worst aspects of the criticism have been the comparisons, sometimes explicit, sometimes implicit, between the Israelis and the Nazis. Gratuitous comparisons of this kind are designated as anti-Semitic under the Holocaust Remembrance Alliance protocols, accepted by the UK and the EU. There have been several examples of this on the Forum including false accusations of genocide, an implicit comparison with the Holocaust, and most recently a description of extremist settlers as Nazi brownshirts.


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