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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road
Posted by: M Blissett
Date/Time: 17/12/09 23:16:00

I don't drive. As long as the journeys I make are quicker by bicycle (+tube/train), I don't see the point.

Of course, cycling in London I've seen all kinds of people doing stupid things. I'm fully aware that cars can't stop instantly (if I wasn't I'd be dead), and I'm also aware of how long it would take me to stop.

I've seen pedestrians running into the road without looking, teenagers pushing each other into the road, dogs loose near busy roads, etc. The three times I've been close to colliding with a pedestrian I'd already slowed down having seen the hazard. Me + bicycle weighs about 80kg.

Unfortunately, I see three or four car drivers *every* *day* _intentionally_ doing stupid, selfish things. The worst is probably a general unawareness of the traffic ahead. Why do large numbers of car drivers race to the next set of lights when they can see the queue ahead?

Worst (for my safety) is trying to overtake a cyclist when there's not enough room -- like when there's a pedestrian crossing/refuge in the centre of the road, or near (or even on!) a junction, or in a multilane queue of traffic. This is closely followed by drivers trying to squeeze past to overtake, not even crossing the centre line. Typically, they do this in order to join the queue of traffic at the lights. It's simply unnecessary -- even on a clear road, there's plenty of time for a car to make up the 10 seconds lost time waiting to overtake (and who cares about 10 seconds?). At best it's ignorance and a complete lack of awareness, at worst a complete lack of regard for other people.
In either case, it's risking other people's lives for a negligible personal gain.

Lower (non-motorway) speed limits and more responsibility on motorists when they have accidents with non-motorists is an excellent way to save lives. This isn't a minority against the majority -- we are all pedestrians!

I was in Sweden recently. From the point of view of a pedestrian, the difference between Swedish drivers and British drivers is amazing. Drivers in Sweden will stop if they see a pedestrian waiting at the side of the road. I think a speed limit of 30km/h (19mph) helps here -- it's easier to stop, and more relaxed.


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Lower Richmond Road12/12/09 17:04:00 Ruth Wyman
   Re:Lower Richmond Road12/12/09 17:09:00 Rose Kelland
      Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road12/12/09 17:12:00 Victoria Richardson
         Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road14/12/09 19:08:00 Victoria Richardson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road19/12/09 10:29:00 Barbara Stevens
   Re:Lower Richmond Road14/12/09 20:56:00 Anoh Appiah
      Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road14/12/09 21:27:00 Martin Hime
         Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road14/12/09 22:14:00 Andrew Taskis
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road15/12/09 10:07:00 Simon Knight
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road15/12/09 10:56:00 Richard Carter
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road15/12/09 11:11:00 Francis Forman
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road15/12/09 11:36:00 Andrew Taskis
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road15/12/09 12:41:00 Guy Sunda
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road15/12/09 19:16:00 Richard Carter
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road15/12/09 22:58:00 Andrew Taskis
               Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road15/12/09 19:11:00 Anoh Appiah
                  Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road15/12/09 19:24:00 Simon Knight
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road15/12/09 19:31:00 Richard Carter
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road15/12/09 19:39:00 Simon Knight
                           Re:Lower Richmond Road15/12/09 19:48:00 Anoh Appiah
                              Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road15/12/09 20:07:00 Simon Knight
                                 Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road15/12/09 21:45:00 Richard Carter
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road16/12/09 08:21:00 Simon Knight
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road16/12/09 09:43:00 Adam Tripp
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road16/12/09 09:50:00 Richard Carter
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road16/12/09 10:20:00 Adam Tripp
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road16/12/09 10:23:00 Richard Carter
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road16/12/09 10:38:00 Simon Knight
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road16/12/09 10:57:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road16/12/09 11:06:00 Richard Carter
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road16/12/09 12:23:00 Martin Hime
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road16/12/09 14:16:00 Simon Knight
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road16/12/09 14:49:00 Richard Carter
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road16/12/09 14:59:00 Simon Knight
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road16/12/09 20:54:00 M Blissett
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road17/12/09 06:56:00 Simon Knight
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road17/12/09 08:52:00 Richard Carter
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road17/12/09 09:10:00 Simon Knight
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road17/12/09 09:18:00 Richard Carter
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road17/12/09 14:13:00 Simon Knight
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road17/12/09 23:16:00 M Blissett
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road18/12/09 08:09:00 Simon Knight
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road18/12/09 09:32:00 M Blissett
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road18/12/09 09:46:00 Simon Knight
                              Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road16/12/09 18:59:00 Roy Jones
                                 Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road17/12/09 09:47:00 Bunny Payne
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road17/12/09 09:58:00 Richard Carter
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road17/12/09 10:22:00 Bunny Payne
                                          Re:Lower Richmond Road18/12/09 13:49:00 Richard Hodges
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road17/12/09 10:41:00 Adam Tripp
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road19/12/09 10:59:00 Barbara Stevens
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road19/12/09 11:20:00 Richard Carter
   Re:Lower Richmond Road18/12/09 14:50:00 Vic Condon
      Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road18/12/09 15:05:00 Caroline Whitehead
   Re:Lower Richmond Road19/12/09 10:16:00 Barbara Stevens
      Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road05/01/10 12:43:00 Christine Fleming
         Re:Re:Re:Lower Richmond Road09/01/10 11:49:00 Barbara Stevens

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