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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street
Posted by: Richard Carter
Date/Time: 02/02/13 18:38:00

I accept that you're not a councillor, apologies for suggesting such a thing (lol). But I think it's quite clear that you're trying to downgrade what some people have been saying by suggesting they represent special interests - otherwise why say it?

Whatever, I will state here that I am interested in seeing better cycling provision, not because I'm a cyclist (I do think it's misleading to refer to people by one of the forms of transport they use: I cycle sometimes, walk and also, when the need arises, drive a car) but because it's a way of improving the balance of road use. I'd also like to limit car use and boost walking - as others have pointed out, half the journeys in London are less than two miles, so increasing walking and cycling will make things better for everyone.

However, turning to more substantive points, the general idea in Dave Irwin's proposal, to reduce the amount of road space, is a good one, but the way he suggests it's done is,  I think, mistaken. It's be based on present road usage, which is one mistake (the present road layout is the main cause of present usage, whereas the layout should be based on what it might become if it were more favourable). Here the 1 per cent figure for used cycles is what leaded him down the wrong path (it's derived from a survey that showed that around 6 per cent of the vehicles were cycles but, because of multiple occupancy in cars and buses this reduces to 1 per cent of the people). This may be "fairer" but it leads him to ignore cycles altogether; this is not only wrong in principle but makes life much more dangerous for people on bikes on the High Street. I think this is the biggest mistake in the proposals.

I think the idea of putting planters at intervals won't make any significant improvement - in fact, it'll make it worse because it'll cause pinch points for pedestrians and impede their flow, and I also think it's wrong in principle to encourage vehicles to park up on the pavements (half pavements?). Good point about deliveries, though, Tesco's in particular are [something I shouldn't write on a family forum], and I wish they'd get fined heavily every time they disobey the rules.


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Terrific new proposal for the High Street25/01/13 19:45:00 Allan Manham
   Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street25/01/13 19:59:00 Patricia Poulter
   Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street25/01/13 21:13:00 James Elder
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street25/01/13 21:50:00 Sarah Roberts
   Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street26/01/13 09:37:00 Lucille Grant
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street26/01/13 09:54:00 Caroline Whitehead
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street26/01/13 10:05:00 Lucille Grant
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street26/01/13 10:54:00 Adam Tripp
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street26/01/13 13:36:00 Alison Fraser
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street26/01/13 14:23:00 James Elder
                     Response to proposal for the High Street improvement scheme26/01/13 19:31:00 Allan Manham
   Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street27/01/13 11:27:00 Nicholas Symons
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street27/01/13 12:32:00 Lucille Grant
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street27/01/13 15:13:00 John Gorst
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street27/01/13 15:17:00 Jonathan Callaway
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street27/01/13 21:44:00 Sam Curtis
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street27/01/13 22:07:00 Martine Guy
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street28/01/13 08:32:00 Lucille Grant
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street28/01/13 09:15:00 Jamie Halliday
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street28/01/13 11:27:00 Dave Roberts
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street28/01/13 11:43:00 Martine Guy
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street05/02/13 08:32:00 Ruth Pates
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street05/02/13 10:09:00 Richard Carter
   Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street28/01/13 12:15:00 Nicholas Evans
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street28/01/13 18:30:00 Dave Roberts
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street29/01/13 18:27:00 Barbara Stevens
   Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street28/01/13 21:49:00 Hayley Brockway
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street29/01/13 08:23:00 Barbara Stevens
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street29/01/13 08:46:00 Lucille Grant
   Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street30/01/13 13:50:00 Richard Carter
      Re:Re: Not quite such a terrific new proposal for the High Street30/01/13 14:16:00 Andy Howard
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street30/01/13 14:21:00 Aliki Smith
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street31/01/13 14:04:00 Andy Howard
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street31/01/13 19:34:00 Barbara Stevens
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 09:38:00 Andy Howard
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 11:35:00 Roy Robart
   Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 16:34:00 David Irwin
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 17:22:00 Roland Gilmore
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 17:35:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 17:48:00 Roland Gilmore
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 18:07:00 Patricia Poulter
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 18:20:00 Simon Knight
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 23:24:00 Richard Carter
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street02/02/13 09:22:00 Patricia Poulter
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street02/02/13 09:31:00 Andy Howard
                        Re:a few planters will resolve the issue of air quality in the High St02/02/13 10:52:00 Allan Manham
                           Re:Re:a few planters will resolve the issue of air quality in the High St02/02/13 16:59:00 Andy Howard
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street02/02/13 10:53:00 David Irwin
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street02/02/13 14:32:00 Roy Robart
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street02/02/13 11:06:00 Roland Gilmore
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street02/02/13 18:38:00 Richard Carter
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street02/02/13 19:57:00 Simon Knight
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street02/02/13 20:26:00 Matt Palmer
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 00:44:00 Adam Tripp
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 08:56:00 Lucille Grant
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 09:28:00 Martine Guy
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 09:49:00 Lucille Grant
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 11:33:00 Michael Ixer
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 11:57:00 Barbara Stevens
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 12:08:00 Barbara Stevens
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 14:27:00 Simon Knight
            Re:No Simon, No03/02/13 14:37:00 Allan Manham
               Re:Re:No Simon, No03/02/13 14:56:00 Simon Knight
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street05/02/13 08:27:00 Ruth Pates
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street05/02/13 17:22:00 Simon Knight
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street05/02/13 17:46:00 Martine Guy
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street05/02/13 17:51:00 Simon Knight
                        Hypocrisy of it all05/02/13 18:06:00 Allan Manham
                           Re:Hypocrisy of it all05/02/13 18:23:00 Simon Knight
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street05/02/13 18:02:00 Andy Howard
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street05/02/13 19:03:00 Simon Knight
                        Oh Simon Oh Simon05/02/13 19:47:00 Allan Manham
                           Re:Oh Simon Oh Simon05/02/13 20:04:00 Andy Howard
                              Re:Re:Oh Simon Oh Simon05/02/13 20:17:00 Simon Knight
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 14:46:00 Roland Gilmore
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 15:28:00 Andy Howard
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 17:01:00 Barbara Stevens
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 17:04:00 Barbara Stevens
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 20:12:00 Roland Gilmore
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street04/02/13 07:58:00 Barbara Stevens

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