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Topic: Re:Re:a few planters will resolve the issue of air quality in the High St
Posted by: Andy Howard
Date/Time: 02/02/13 16:59:00

Yes I actually read it. Also I actually read Roland's earlier post ("additional greening to help mitigate the air quality problem") and it was upon this which I was commenting. Any number of plants in the High St will have no discernible effect on the air quality because (a) You need a lot of plants to fix a small amount of CO2 (b)There are a lot of vehicles used in the area (c)Plants don't do a great deal to counteract other pollutants such as sulphur and nitrogen oxides and carbon particulates (d) Air currents mix the pollutants from all over London.

I have a lot of sympathy with David Irwin's proposal and in an earlier post pointed out that many of the negative comments saying it could not cope with the traffic volume were incorrect. But in it's current form, it's never going to fly. All users of the space, minority and majority, need to be accommodated (the idea of allocating width exactly according to % usage is farcical - the users don't occupy the space 100% of the time - so you don't need a 2 inch gap for the 1% of cyclists, you need a 2 foot gap for the safety of cyclists who occasionally pass by). The streetscape needs to cater to pedestrians, motorists, cyclists plus disabled groups such as the blind. I would favour single vehicle width carriageways plus a cycleway. Call this "David Irwin light". The 15 mph speed limit would be fine - most of the time, traffic doesn't get through the high street faster than that anyway. But giving pedestrians priority on a busy trunk road, and leaving cyclists to dodge in and out of a single lane of traffic are ideas which are never going to fly.

Even then, were the High St a more attractive destination, would we see more shops that are actually worth buying something from or just the multiple betting shops/fruit machine emporia, mobile phone shops, banks, building societies and fast food outlets we have at the moment?


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Terrific new proposal for the High Street25/01/13 19:45:00 Allan Manham
   Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street25/01/13 19:59:00 Patricia Poulter
   Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street25/01/13 21:13:00 James Elder
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street25/01/13 21:50:00 Sarah Roberts
   Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street26/01/13 09:37:00 Lucille Grant
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street26/01/13 09:54:00 Caroline Whitehead
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street26/01/13 10:05:00 Lucille Grant
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street26/01/13 10:54:00 Adam Tripp
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street26/01/13 13:36:00 Alison Fraser
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street26/01/13 14:23:00 James Elder
                     Response to proposal for the High Street improvement scheme26/01/13 19:31:00 Allan Manham
   Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street27/01/13 11:27:00 Nicholas Symons
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street27/01/13 12:32:00 Lucille Grant
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street27/01/13 15:13:00 John Gorst
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street27/01/13 15:17:00 Jonathan Callaway
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street27/01/13 21:44:00 Sam Curtis
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street27/01/13 22:07:00 Martine Guy
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street28/01/13 08:32:00 Lucille Grant
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street28/01/13 09:15:00 Jamie Halliday
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street28/01/13 11:27:00 Dave Roberts
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street28/01/13 11:43:00 Martine Guy
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street05/02/13 08:32:00 Ruth Pates
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street05/02/13 10:09:00 Richard Carter
   Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street28/01/13 12:15:00 Nicholas Evans
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street28/01/13 18:30:00 Dave Roberts
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street29/01/13 18:27:00 Barbara Stevens
   Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street28/01/13 21:49:00 Hayley Brockway
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street29/01/13 08:23:00 Barbara Stevens
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street29/01/13 08:46:00 Lucille Grant
   Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street30/01/13 13:50:00 Richard Carter
      Re:Re: Not quite such a terrific new proposal for the High Street30/01/13 14:16:00 Andy Howard
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street30/01/13 14:21:00 Aliki Smith
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street31/01/13 14:04:00 Andy Howard
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street31/01/13 19:34:00 Barbara Stevens
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 09:38:00 Andy Howard
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 11:35:00 Roy Robart
   Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 16:34:00 David Irwin
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 17:22:00 Roland Gilmore
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 17:35:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 17:48:00 Roland Gilmore
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 18:07:00 Patricia Poulter
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 18:20:00 Simon Knight
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street01/02/13 23:24:00 Richard Carter
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street02/02/13 09:22:00 Patricia Poulter
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street02/02/13 09:31:00 Andy Howard
                        Re:a few planters will resolve the issue of air quality in the High St02/02/13 10:52:00 Allan Manham
                           Re:Re:a few planters will resolve the issue of air quality in the High St02/02/13 16:59:00 Andy Howard
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street02/02/13 10:53:00 David Irwin
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street02/02/13 14:32:00 Roy Robart
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street02/02/13 11:06:00 Roland Gilmore
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street02/02/13 18:38:00 Richard Carter
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street02/02/13 19:57:00 Simon Knight
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street02/02/13 20:26:00 Matt Palmer
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 00:44:00 Adam Tripp
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 08:56:00 Lucille Grant
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 09:28:00 Martine Guy
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 09:49:00 Lucille Grant
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 11:33:00 Michael Ixer
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 11:57:00 Barbara Stevens
      Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 12:08:00 Barbara Stevens
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 14:27:00 Simon Knight
            Re:No Simon, No03/02/13 14:37:00 Allan Manham
               Re:Re:No Simon, No03/02/13 14:56:00 Simon Knight
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street05/02/13 08:27:00 Ruth Pates
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street05/02/13 17:22:00 Simon Knight
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street05/02/13 17:46:00 Martine Guy
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street05/02/13 17:51:00 Simon Knight
                        Hypocrisy of it all05/02/13 18:06:00 Allan Manham
                           Re:Hypocrisy of it all05/02/13 18:23:00 Simon Knight
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street05/02/13 18:02:00 Andy Howard
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street05/02/13 19:03:00 Simon Knight
                        Oh Simon Oh Simon05/02/13 19:47:00 Allan Manham
                           Re:Oh Simon Oh Simon05/02/13 20:04:00 Andy Howard
                              Re:Re:Oh Simon Oh Simon05/02/13 20:17:00 Simon Knight
         Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 14:46:00 Roland Gilmore
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 15:28:00 Andy Howard
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 17:01:00 Barbara Stevens
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 17:04:00 Barbara Stevens
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street03/02/13 20:12:00 Roland Gilmore
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Terrific new proposal for the High Street04/02/13 07:58:00 Barbara Stevens

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