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Posted by: Barry Elms
Date/Time: 03/04/26 09:29:00

Richard, I suggest you look at the chart in the article about bus times currently on the front page particularly the one showing northbound travel times on Putney High Street. This shows a very marked deterioration with journey times slowing more than pre-Covid a couple of years before the Putney Bridge junction debacle.

You will also note that Wandsworth's own traffic engineers that the assumptions behind these changes were that Hammersmith Bridge would reopen this year and that the congestion we have seen is a result of diverted journeys that they were expecting would no longer have taken place.

You have circled back to your previous argument based on the fall in the number of crossings of Putney Bridge which you continue to claim is evaporation. There is a fundamental misunderstanding here in that you are assuming the number of journeys and traffic are the same thing. What the data shows us beyond equivocation is that there are fewer vehicles crossing the bridge but they are travelling through the Putney area much more slowly.

You have also misunderstood what Peter is saying about elasticity of demand. He is entitled to say 'very evidently' because both the data that we have, including that cited above and the evidence of the daily experience of anybody who lives in Putney shows that despite extended journey times through Putney the number of vehicles travelling through did not reduce significantly enough to reduce congestion. It seems reasonable to conclude that this is because the overwhelming proportion of people stuck in jams on LRR and PHS have no choice other than to be there.



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Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point25/01/26 22:49:00 Miles Thompson
   Re:Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point26/01/26 08:45:00 Barbara Stevens
      Re:Re:Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point27/01/26 13:45:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point27/01/26 13:51:00 Barbara Stevens
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point28/01/26 13:46:00 Miles Thompson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point29/01/26 11:06:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point04/02/26 10:06:00 Peter Higgins
                     Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point20/02/26 13:00:00 Amanda Oppe
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point07/03/26 00:03:00 Patrick D Barrs
   Reply04/02/26 14:01:00 Richard Carter
      Re:Reply04/02/26 14:25:00 Barbara Stevens
      Re:Reply04/02/26 14:28:00 Barbara Stevens
         Re:Re:Reply04/02/26 18:03:00 Steven Rose
            Reply04/02/26 19:08:00 Richard Carter
               Re:Reply04/02/26 19:23:00 Barbara Stevens
                  Reply05/02/26 08:06:00 Richard Carter
            Reply04/02/26 19:10:00 Michael Ixer
               Re:Reply04/02/26 19:25:00 Barbara Stevens
                  Re:Re:Reply04/02/26 20:17:00 Steven Rose
                     Reply05/02/26 11:09:00 Richard Carter
                        Reply05/02/26 11:22:00 Martine Guy
                           Re:Reply05/02/26 15:09:00 Ivonne Holliday
                              Reply05/02/26 15:52:00 Michael Ixer
                                 Re:Reply05/02/26 16:37:00 David Ainsworth
                                    Re:Re:Reply05/02/26 16:58:00 Peter Higgins
                                       Re:Re:Re:Reply05/02/26 19:57:00 Philippa Bond
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply05/02/26 20:31:00 Barbara Stevens
                                          Reply06/02/26 12:38:00 Richard Carter
                                             Reply06/02/26 13:03:00 Martine Guy
                                                Re:Reply06/02/26 14:29:00 Barbara Stevens
                                                Reply06/02/26 19:32:00 Richard Carter
                                                   Reply06/02/26 19:47:00 Martine Guy
                                                      Re:Reply06/02/26 19:54:00 Barbara Stevens
                                                   Re:Reply06/02/26 20:17:00 Steven Rose
                                             Re:Reply06/02/26 20:10:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                                Re:Re:Reply19/02/26 17:59:00 Peter Higgins
                                                   Reply06/03/26 11:23:00 Barry Elms
                                                      Reply06/03/26 18:28:00 Richard Carter
                                                         Re:Reply06/03/26 18:41:00 Miles Thompson
                                                            Re:Re:Reply06/03/26 19:42:00 Steven Rose
                                                               Reply06/03/26 23:19:00 Richard Carter
                                                      Reply06/03/26 23:31:00 Richard Carter
                                                         Re:Reply07/03/26 00:18:00 Steven Rose
                                                            Re:Re:Reply19/03/26 12:09:00 Peter Higgins
                                                               Reply20/03/26 09:07:00 Barry Elms
                                                                  Re:Reply20/03/26 09:17:00 Barbara Stevens
                                                                     Re:Re:Reply20/03/26 16:24:00 Peter Higgins
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Reply21/03/26 07:54:00 Bill Christie
                                                               Reply21/03/26 09:17:00 Richard Carter
                                                                  Re:Reply02/04/26 12:25:00 Peter Higgins
                                                            Reply21/03/26 14:02:00 Richard Carter
                                                               Re:Reply21/03/26 14:09:00 David Ainsworth
                                                               Re:Reply21/03/26 14:41:00 Barbara Stevens
                                                                  Re:Re:Reply22/03/26 07:40:00 Miles Thompson
   Reply02/04/26 20:02:00 Richard Carter
      Reply03/04/26 09:29:00 Barry Elms
         Re:Reply03/04/26 11:08:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Reply09/04/26 08:58:00 Peter Higgins

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