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Posted by: Peter Higgins
Date/Time: 02/04/26 12:25:00

Richard, I'm not sure what barrel I'm supposed to be scraping here. I'm just pointing out that studies from elsewhere that might suggest that traffic evaporation can occur doesn't mean that it happens in every instance. The daily experience of a Putney resident shows evaporation isn't working locally and the problems predated the cock-up made with the Putney Bridge junction. I don't understand why you would ignore the clear evidence of your own eyes and assume that two studies which were not done in this area would automatically be applicable.

The reason why the closure of Hammersmith Bridge very evidently hasn't led to evaporation must be down to elasticity of demand. If you take the proportion of commercial traffic including deliveries, buses, private hire vehicles, cars being driven for business reasons, care worker, cars being driven by people with mobility issues (in other words journeys that are basically non-discretionary and have to be made no matter how bad the traffic is) there is probably only a small proportion that is genuinely discretionary and, even without these journeys the roads are congested.

If demand can't be reduced then capactiy has to be increased and Hammersmith Bridge reopening would achieve this. The important thing to stress is that the largest number of crossing of the reopened bridge would be made by people on buses who in turn would be less likely to use a car for their journey which means fears about induced demand are overstated.


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Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point25/01/26 22:49:00 Miles Thompson
   Re:Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point26/01/26 08:45:00 Barbara Stevens
      Re:Re:Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point27/01/26 13:45:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point27/01/26 13:51:00 Barbara Stevens
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point28/01/26 13:46:00 Miles Thompson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point29/01/26 11:06:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point04/02/26 10:06:00 Peter Higgins
                     Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point20/02/26 13:00:00 Amanda Oppe
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith Bridge - A Fundamental Point07/03/26 00:03:00 Patrick D Barrs
   Reply04/02/26 14:01:00 Richard Carter
      Re:Reply04/02/26 14:25:00 Barbara Stevens
      Re:Reply04/02/26 14:28:00 Barbara Stevens
         Re:Re:Reply04/02/26 18:03:00 Steven Rose
            Reply04/02/26 19:08:00 Richard Carter
               Re:Reply04/02/26 19:23:00 Barbara Stevens
                  Reply05/02/26 08:06:00 Richard Carter
            Reply04/02/26 19:10:00 Michael Ixer
               Re:Reply04/02/26 19:25:00 Barbara Stevens
                  Re:Re:Reply04/02/26 20:17:00 Steven Rose
                     Reply05/02/26 11:09:00 Richard Carter
                        Reply05/02/26 11:22:00 Martine Guy
                           Re:Reply05/02/26 15:09:00 Ivonne Holliday
                              Reply05/02/26 15:52:00 Michael Ixer
                                 Re:Reply05/02/26 16:37:00 David Ainsworth
                                    Re:Re:Reply05/02/26 16:58:00 Peter Higgins
                                       Re:Re:Re:Reply05/02/26 19:57:00 Philippa Bond
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply05/02/26 20:31:00 Barbara Stevens
                                          Reply06/02/26 12:38:00 Richard Carter
                                             Reply06/02/26 13:03:00 Martine Guy
                                                Re:Reply06/02/26 14:29:00 Barbara Stevens
                                                Reply06/02/26 19:32:00 Richard Carter
                                                   Reply06/02/26 19:47:00 Martine Guy
                                                      Re:Reply06/02/26 19:54:00 Barbara Stevens
                                                   Re:Reply06/02/26 20:17:00 Steven Rose
                                             Re:Reply06/02/26 20:10:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                                Re:Re:Reply19/02/26 17:59:00 Peter Higgins
                                                   Reply06/03/26 11:23:00 Barry Elms
                                                      Reply06/03/26 18:28:00 Richard Carter
                                                         Re:Reply06/03/26 18:41:00 Miles Thompson
                                                            Re:Re:Reply06/03/26 19:42:00 Steven Rose
                                                               Reply06/03/26 23:19:00 Richard Carter
                                                      Reply06/03/26 23:31:00 Richard Carter
                                                         Re:Reply07/03/26 00:18:00 Steven Rose
                                                            Re:Re:Reply19/03/26 12:09:00 Peter Higgins
                                                               Reply20/03/26 09:07:00 Barry Elms
                                                                  Re:Reply20/03/26 09:17:00 Barbara Stevens
                                                                     Re:Re:Reply20/03/26 16:24:00 Peter Higgins
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Reply21/03/26 07:54:00 Bill Christie
                                                               Reply21/03/26 09:17:00 Richard Carter
                                                                  Re:Reply02/04/26 12:25:00 Peter Higgins
                                                            Reply21/03/26 14:02:00 Richard Carter
                                                               Re:Reply21/03/26 14:09:00 David Ainsworth
                                                               Re:Reply21/03/26 14:41:00 Barbara Stevens
                                                                  Re:Re:Reply22/03/26 07:40:00 Miles Thompson
   Reply02/04/26 20:02:00 Richard Carter
      Reply03/04/26 09:29:00 Barry Elms
         Re:Reply03/04/26 11:08:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Reply09/04/26 08:58:00 Peter Higgins

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