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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Reply
Posted by: Steven Rose
Date/Time: 26/04/26 21:37:00

Jonathan, let me be clear (as politicians are wont to say). I don’t regard all migrants as potential rapists. Only a tiny minority of foreign nationals are arrested or convicted for sexual assault. Even in the case of the worst offender, Afghanistan, only around 75 per 10 000 Afghani immigrants have been arrested for this crime, which suggests that over 99% are not sexual offenders. And as Richard rightly pointed out, there was no gang rape in Epsom. The only reason that I have engaged in this debate is that a number of contributors have refused, apparently on ideological grounds,  to accept overwhelming evidence that a disproportionate number of foreign nationals are involved in sexual assault. Is this fact important? I think it is. We have got too many rapists in the indigenous population. Why would we want to allow even more into the country?

As to why people on the left are reluctant to accept evidence contrary to their beliefs, I do have a theory which, at the risk of being accused of writing yet another presumptuous ‘ essay’, I am happy to explain. In my opinion (and it is just an opinion) leftist ideology is a kind of secular religion based on faith rather than reason. Like fundamentalist Christianity it has got an original sin, the Atlantic slave trade. It has got a holy institution, the NHS. It has got sinners, people of right wing views. Nowadays, having largely abandoned actual socialism ( i.e state control of the economy), leftists are chiefly characterised by their belief in a number of anti-isms: anti-racism, anti-sexism, anti-elitism and so on. And they judge virtue in terms of adherence to these beliefs. So when evidence is presented that, for example, a disproportionate number of foreign nationals are involved in sexual assaults, they see this as an attack upon  their anti-racist ideology, which they must defend at all costs, just as religious zealots defend their faith against unbelievers.

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Gang-Rape In Epsom 16/04/26 12:37:00 Sue Hammond
   Re:Gang-Rape In Epsom 16/04/26 13:01:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Gang-Rape In Epsom 16/04/26 14:45:00 Sue Hammond
      Re:Re:Gang-Rape In Epsom 17/04/26 07:48:00 Barbara Stevens
         Re:Re:Re:Gang-Rape In Epsom 17/04/26 09:18:00 John Hawkes
            Reply17/04/26 18:58:00 Michael Brigo
               Re:Reply17/04/26 22:02:00 Philippa Bond
               Sexual assaults by illegal immigrants24/04/26 10:52:00 John Hawkes
                  Re:Sexual assaults by illegal immigrants24/04/26 12:43:00 Michael Brigo
                     Re:Re:Sexual assaults by illegal immigrants24/04/26 12:52:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Gang-Rape In Epsom 24/04/26 09:56:00 Andy Pike
            Reply24/04/26 10:19:00 Michael Ixer
               Re:Reply24/04/26 11:17:00 Lucille Grant
            Reply24/04/26 10:48:00 Richard Carter
   Reply24/04/26 11:01:00 Michael Ixer
      Re:Reply24/04/26 12:38:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Reply24/04/26 12:45:00 Michael Brigo
            Re:Re:Re:Reply24/04/26 13:30:00 John Hawkes
         Reply24/04/26 12:54:00 Michael Ixer
            Re:Reply24/04/26 13:52:00 John Hawkes
               Reply24/04/26 14:11:00 Michael Ixer
                  Re:Reply24/04/26 14:33:00 John Hawkes
                     Reply24/04/26 15:51:00 Michael Ixer
                        Re:Reply25/04/26 10:46:00 John Hawkes
                           Reply25/04/26 12:20:00 Michael Ixer
                              Re:Reply26/04/26 13:55:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Gang-Rape In Epsom 24/04/26 13:57:00 Jonathan Callaway
      Re:Re:Gang-Rape In Epsom 24/04/26 17:14:00 Barbara Stevens
      Reply24/04/26 18:42:00 Richard Carter
         Re:Reply24/04/26 22:25:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Reply24/04/26 22:54:00 Jonathan Callaway
               Re:Re:Re:Reply25/04/26 08:33:00 Barbara Stevens
            Re:Re:Reply25/04/26 10:56:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Reply25/04/26 11:31:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Reply25/04/26 12:42:00 Richard Carter
   Re:Gang-Rape In Epsom 25/04/26 13:39:00 Steven Rose
      Reply25/04/26 14:14:00 Richard Carter
      Reply25/04/26 14:48:00 Sue Hammond
      Re:Re:Gang-Rape In Epsom 25/04/26 18:04:00 Ivonne Holliday
      Re:Re:Gang-Rape In Epsom 25/04/26 20:04:00 Jonathan Callaway
         Re:Re:Re:Gang-Rape In Epsom 25/04/26 20:50:00 Robert Wheeler
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Gang-Rape In Epsom 25/04/26 22:30:00 Steven Rose
               Reply26/04/26 11:15:00 Richard Carter
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Gang-Rape In Epsom 26/04/26 11:53:00 Jonathan Callaway
            Reply26/04/26 10:39:00 Richard Carter
               Re:Reply26/04/26 11:23:00 Steven Rose
                  Reply26/04/26 13:28:00 Sue Hammond
                  Reply26/04/26 13:31:00 Richard Carter
                     Re:Reply26/04/26 13:44:00 Sue Hammond
                        Reply26/04/26 13:58:00 Richard Carter
                           Re:Reply26/04/26 14:16:00 John Hawkes
                     Re:Reply26/04/26 14:13:00 John Hawkes
                  Re:Re:Reply26/04/26 13:34:00 Lucille Grant
                     Re:Re:Re:Reply26/04/26 14:31:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Reply26/04/26 13:26:00 Lucille Grant
                  Reply26/04/26 13:44:00 Richard Carter
                     Re:Reply26/04/26 14:02:00 Lucille Grant
                     Re:Reply26/04/26 16:27:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Reply26/04/26 14:11:00 John Hawkes
   Reply26/04/26 15:12:00 Michael Ixer
      Re:Reply26/04/26 17:39:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Reply26/04/26 19:00:00 Jonathan Callaway
            Re:Re:Re:Reply26/04/26 21:37:00 Steven Rose

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