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Topic: Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 2013
Posted by: Jonathan Callaway
Date/Time: 07/08/13 19:41:00

Picking up on one of Roland's earlier comments, that air pollution might have been lower on Putney High Street and Putney Hill but that much worse where the traffic had backed up, I think this just illustrates the wider point about the effects of traffic congestion on all of us - it pollutes the air, and does so badly.

Personally I think there are only two ways to address air pollution: 1) keep cleaning up diesel and petrol engines and 2) reduce traffic volumes.  A lot has been done to clean up engines and reduce CO2 emissions, but in the case of diesels only at the cost of higher Nitrogen Dioxide emissions (this is a toxic gas by the way, even if invisible).  More still needs to be done of course.

And the traffic?  Basically, more of us have to get out of our cars (that's where cycling might come in).   We also have to shift more freight traffic from road to rail.  I'm sure people will have lots of other good ideas about how we achieve this but until people are ready to leave their cars at home we will not achieve much.  Days like last Sunday should be an encouragement for people not only to try cycling – which I do around Putney and Richmond Park, and never in lycra(!) – but also to see what traffic-free roads are like.

Maybe radical steps will be needed to reduce car use but is any politician ready to take on the absurdly loud car lobby?   We have made ourselves so dependent on cars that nobody seems to be able to think of an alternative.   Is it now time for the stick rather than the carrot?  I honestly feel we cannot indefinitely sustain the current situation where everybody feels they have an unfettered right to drive where they want when they want.

A couple of other points - cyclists often get attacked for not paying Road Tax.  But “Road Tax” was abolished in 1937. Vehicle Excise Duty is now totally emissions-linked and more and more cars are not paying it. Is there some objection to these cars also using the highway??  Neither do emergency vehicles (incl. the police) or the disabled in general. There was never a link between paying the Tax/Duty and the maintenance of highways which has always come from direct taxation.  And most cyclists are car owners anyway (me included) - only about 15% don’t own a car.

Finally, what would be so wrong in closing off Richmond Park to cars?  Some people obviously hate the idea but why?  If the car parks remain open but through traffic is banned then all users can still get there, even in their cars, while walkers and cyclists can enjoy a car-free and pollution-free visit to one of London’s finest parks.

Last word on the Sunday closures – I agree with all those who feel better organisation is required – train the stewards properly and it might alleviate some of the anger and congestion.


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Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201302/08/13 14:59:00 Ronald Redfern
   Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201302/08/13 15:48:00 Andy Costiff
   Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201302/08/13 17:21:00 Alan Sherman
      Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201302/08/13 18:35:00 Roland Gilmore
         Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201302/08/13 18:57:00 Simon Knight
         Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201302/08/13 20:16:00 James Elder
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201302/08/13 22:43:00 Stephen Walker
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201302/08/13 22:54:00 Dave Roberts
                  Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201303/08/13 10:00:00 Helena Smith
                     Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201303/08/13 22:05:00 Pamela Waller
                        Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201303/08/13 22:29:00 David Austin
         Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201305/08/13 13:38:00 James Elder
   Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 11:31:00 Michele Tamlin
      Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 12:49:00 Simon Knight
         Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 17:02:00 Jonathan Callaway
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 18:41:00 Dave Roberts
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 20:03:00 Michael Ixer
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 22:45:00 Jonathan Callaway
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201306/08/13 10:33:00 Pete Aron
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 18:42:00 Clive Williams
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 20:01:00 Roland Gilmore
                  Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 20:33:00 Helena Smith
                     Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 20:48:00 Adam Gray
                        Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 21:11:00 James Elder
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 20:51:00 Patricia Poulter
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 22:24:00 Michael Ixer
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 22:43:00 Jonathan Callaway
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 23:17:00 Nick Gulliford
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201305/08/13 14:23:00 Stephen Walker
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 23:25:00 Lucille Grant
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201305/08/13 00:18:00 Sam Curtis
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 23:22:00 Michael Ixer
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201304/08/13 23:38:00 Dave Roberts
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201305/08/13 08:23:00 Roland Gilmore
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201305/08/13 10:20:00 Ivonne Holliday
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201305/08/13 10:27:00 Dave Roberts
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201305/08/13 17:27:00 Roland Gilmore
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201305/08/13 17:53:00 Dave Roberts
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201305/08/13 19:35:00 Lucille Grant
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201306/08/13 10:44:00 Dave Roberts
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201306/08/13 11:30:00 Roland Gilmore
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201306/08/13 12:38:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201306/08/13 14:42:00 Dave Roberts
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201306/08/13 13:27:00 James Elder
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201306/08/13 15:22:00 Sue Hammond
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201306/08/13 15:29:00 Nicholas Evans
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201306/08/13 15:59:00 Sue Hammond
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201306/08/13 16:57:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                   Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201307/08/13 19:41:00 Jonathan Callaway
                                                      Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201307/08/13 20:29:00 Roland Gilmore
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201308/08/13 14:58:00 Jonathan Callaway
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201308/08/13 16:26:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201308/08/13 22:01:00 Jonathan Callaway
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycle Race Road Closure 4th August 201308/08/13 23:15:00 Adam Gray

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