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Posted by: Roland Gilmore
Date/Time: 15/05/09 21:30:00

The question is whether our Council executives are overpaid or MPs and ministers underpaid?

How can a council employee, managing a budget of say £10M be worthy of more than a minister responsible for managing a budget of say £10Bn. There seems to be no corelation between the levels of responsibility and salary.

The inferance is that some MPs have been "topping up" their income by abusing the expenses system because their pay is inadequate. If MPs were paid a salary comparable to other sectors of public service, I would like to believe this situation would not have arisen.

With many private sector employees being asked to take a pay cut at this time, is it really acceptable that Mr Jones receive such a huge increase? As far as I can gather, his occupation is a non-productive one, managing the managers so how is his personal performance measurable other than by the efforts of others?

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MPs expenses12/05/09 10:17:00 Adam Tripp
   Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 10:41:00 Martine Guy
      Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 11:31:00 Barry Barker
         Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 11:38:00 Martine Guy
            Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 18:30:00 Barry Barker
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 18:36:00 Martine Guy
      Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 11:40:00 Suzanne Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 13:14:00 Bunny Payne
            Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 13:50:00 Nick Parker
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 14:04:00 Nick Cochran
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 15:15:00 Nick Parker
   Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 17:55:00 Martin Hime
      Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 18:22:00 Adam Tripp
         Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 18:33:00 Martin Hime
   Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 18:42:00 Martin Hime
      Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 18:59:00 Martine Guy
         Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 19:06:00 Martin Hime
            Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 19:09:00 Martine Guy
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 19:17:00 Martin Hime
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 19:21:00 Martine Guy
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 19:34:00 Martin Hime
      Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 19:18:00 Bunny Payne
         Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 19:25:00 Martin Hime
            Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 19:42:00 Adam Tripp
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 20:00:00 Martin Hime
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 20:02:00 Martin Hime
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 20:20:00 Martine Guy
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 20:22:00 Martin Hime
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 22:04:00 Bunny Payne
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 22:25:00 Martine Guy
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 22:26:00 Michael Ixer
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses12/05/09 23:19:00 Suzanne Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses13/05/09 12:32:00 Britha Parekh
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses13/05/09 14:20:00 James Dixon
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses13/05/09 16:31:00 Martine Guy
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses13/05/09 17:54:00 Martin Hime
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses13/05/09 22:06:00 Bunny Payne
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses13/05/09 23:26:00 Matt Palmer
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses14/05/09 03:20:00 Sarah Mayfield
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses14/05/09 07:50:00 Barry Barker
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses14/05/09 07:49:00 Martine Guy
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                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses14/05/09 09:11:00 Adam Tripp
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses14/05/09 09:13:00 Bunny Payne
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses14/05/09 13:23:00 Bunny Payne
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses14/05/09 14:06:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses14/05/09 15:53:00 James Dixon
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses14/05/09 17:03:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses14/05/09 17:26:00 Martin Hime
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses14/05/09 18:38:00 Suzanne Taylor
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses14/05/09 19:16:00 Sarah Mayfield
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses14/05/09 21:02:00 Nick Parker
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                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses19/05/09 12:27:00 Suzanne Taylor
                                                                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses19/05/09 13:06:00 Martin Hime
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                                                                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses20/05/09 08:47:00 Barry Barker
                                                                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:MPs expenses20/05/09 09:03:00 Bunny Payne
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