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Topic: Re:How Do We Solve the Care Crisis?
Posted by: Philippa Bond
Date/Time: 07/02/20 19:20:00

I believe Govt has this listed to be a cross party solution.  When?

Situation is dire.  It needs to be joined up with the NHS because so much of it is relating to hospital discharge.  It's all under stress. 

There have been several items on the radio recently about families taking their elderly relatives with dementia to Thailand to place them in care there and then returning themselves to Europe.  It is a long way to go to visit!  They reckon that it is a better quality of care.

The carers we saw were paid minimum wage and were rushing from one service user to another.  It took one hour for a good carer to get FIL up and out of bed and washed and dressed, meds taken and with breakfast in front of him while she wrote up the book.  That is a good carer and with nothing going wrong eg looking for a hearing aid.  I sometimes prepared the fruit for the breakfast if I was there.  The elderly don't like to be pulled and pushed around and don't move as fast as younger people.  No time for sitting and chatting as well which is why friends to visit were always very welcome, together with the chiropodist, the lady from the library and the lady who cut hair.

Unfortunately I discovered that the carers had several service users timetabled for the same time or overlapping and they were not being paid for their time travelling between them which they are entitled to by law.  When you think about it most people want to get out of bed and have breakfast at about the same time.  Certainly plenty of time before a hot lunch is delivered.  I'm glad we chose a different service for lunch otherwise  it could all have happened at the same time.

A similar problem happened with bedtime.  Nobody wants to be put to bed at 6pm.  Everyone wanted the later slots - this is because a lot of older people doze off several times during the day.  And nobody told me and I didn't realise that until I experienced it and just how tiring it is when you  yourself don't!

The care home used for respite a couple of times had a problem too with lack of staff.  Although each room had a shower there weren't enough staff available to have one.

Most people don't seem to realise how costly elderly care is, or that they have to pay for it if they have more than a certain amount of savings.

It would be better to pay more tax for just this.  We are living much longer and it is no good just living for today and pretending that you are not going to become old and disabled.  You may not have a say!

But everyone votes for low tax - duh.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
How Do We Solve the Care Crisis?07/02/20 18:17:00 Martine Guy
   Re:How Do We Solve the Care Crisis?07/02/20 19:18:00 Andy Pike
   Re:How Do We Solve the Care Crisis?07/02/20 19:20:00 Philippa Bond
      Reply07/02/20 19:33:00 Martine Guy
      Re:Re:How Do We Solve the Care Crisis?07/02/20 19:37:00 Ivonne Holliday
         Re:Re:Re:How Do We Solve the Care Crisis?07/02/20 20:11:00 Andy Pike
            Re:Re:Re:Re:How Do We Solve the Care Crisis?09/02/20 17:22:00 Bunny Payne
         Reply07/02/20 20:13:00 Martine Guy
            Re:Reply07/02/20 20:36:00 Ivonne Holliday
               Reply07/02/20 20:54:00 Martine Guy
                  Re:Reply07/02/20 21:42:00 Lucille Grant
                     Reply07/02/20 22:02:00 Martine Guy
                        Re:Reply08/02/20 01:28:00 Philippa Bond
                           Re:Re:Reply08/02/20 09:06:00 Lucille Grant
                              Re:Re:Re:Reply08/02/20 15:46:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:How Do We Solve the Care Crisis?09/02/20 15:46:00 Ruth Pates
   Re:How Do We Solve the Care Crisis?09/02/20 15:54:00 Ruth Pates
      Re:Re:How Do We Solve the Care Crisis?09/02/20 17:35:00 Bunny Payne
         Reply09/02/20 18:02:00 Martine Guy
            Re:Reply09/02/20 18:09:00 Ruth Pates
         Reply09/02/20 18:29:00 Michael Ixer
         Re:Re:Re:How Do We Solve the Care Crisis?09/02/20 19:44:00 Barbara Stevens
      Re:Re:How Do We Solve the Care Crisis?09/02/20 17:44:00 Caroline Whitehead
         Re:Re:Re:How Do We Solve the Care Crisis?09/02/20 18:07:00 Ruth Pates
            Reply09/02/20 19:20:00 Martine Guy
               Re:Reply09/02/20 19:39:00 Andy Pike
                  Reply09/02/20 20:00:00 Martine Guy
                     Re:Reply09/02/20 21:05:00 Andy Pike
                        Reply09/02/20 21:18:00 Martine Guy
                           Re:Reply09/02/20 21:23:00 Andy Pike
                              Reply09/02/20 21:38:00 Martine Guy
                              Reply09/02/20 22:07:00 Michael Ixer
                     Re:Reply09/02/20 21:37:00 Philippa Bond
                        Reply09/02/20 21:55:00 Martine Guy
                           Re:Reply19/02/20 22:13:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Reply19/02/20 23:00:00 Philippa Bond
                              Reply19/02/20 23:08:00 Michael Ixer
                              Reply19/02/20 23:16:00 Martine Guy
   Reply20/02/20 09:35:00 Sean Hodges
   Re:How Do We Solve the Care Crisis?21/02/20 15:42:00 John Hawkes
      Reply21/02/20 17:14:00 Martine Guy
         Reply21/02/20 17:38:00 Martine Guy
         Re:Reply21/02/20 17:39:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 17:41:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 18:16:00 Jonathan Callaway
                  Reply21/02/20 18:42:00 Martine Guy
               Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 18:54:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply21/02/20 19:00:00 Philippa Bond
                     Reply21/02/20 19:11:00 Martine Guy
                        Re:Reply21/02/20 19:15:00 Philippa Bond
                           Reply21/02/20 19:51:00 Martine Guy
                              Re:Reply21/02/20 21:07:00 Philippa Bond
                                 Reply21/02/20 21:48:00 Martine Guy
                                    Re:Reply22/02/20 08:58:00 Mike Warman
                                       Reply22/02/20 12:31:00 Martine Guy
                                       Reply22/02/20 15:29:00 Michael Ixer
                                          Re:Reply23/02/20 10:04:00 Philippa Bond
                                             Reply23/02/20 11:43:00 Michael Ixer
                                                Reply23/02/20 14:32:00 Martine Guy
                                                   Reply23/02/20 18:50:00 Michael Ixer
                                                      Re:Reply23/02/20 19:18:00 Jonathan Callaway
                                                         Reply23/02/20 20:06:00 Martine Guy
                                                         Re:Re:Reply23/02/20 22:49:00 Philippa Bond

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