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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Justine's petition
Posted by: John Cameron
Date/Time: 13/08/19 09:35:00

@ Caroline

The ACV strategy has merit, but it cannot be simply achieved by a ‘petition’.  What Greening is suggesting make no sense. 

A community group needs to bring the application forward, in the same way that the Friends of Wandsworth Park / Sea Scouts did with their successful applications.

A random petition cannot achieve ACV status, it is meaningless. It may be the Greening know this and simply hasn’t communicated her strategy well. But what she says is simply wrong and it is misleading.

A successful ACV application may lead to a community group acquiring the pub (although I regard this as very unlikely, for lots of reasons). It would take a lot of time and effort, but many pubs have been successfully acquired and subsequently run by their new community owners.

Alternatively a successful ACV application would need to be considered by the planning department if there was a change of use application, as it would be considered material.  So ACV throws a bit of a spanner in any planning application for a period, but not forever.

I suggested the ACV route as the first post seemed to indicate there was an some enthusiasm for a community bid.  However I haven’t seen anything to indicate that is actually the case, ie a community bid group coming forward.

Greening would not be suggesting what she is (which is NOT a community bid) if there was a group out there. Unless of course a group are working away in secret and have not publicised themselves, which seems unlikely.

I have a good understanding of ACV’s and how they work - but in essence for this to have legs it needs a ‘proper’ group, with a sound plan, funding and so on.

A petition from Greening doesn’t amount to a row beans without a group standing behind it. Wandsworth need a proper worked up ACV application.


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   Re:Protect The Telegraph Pub ? Con Party appears to wish to help- 10/08/19 18:15:00 Ivonne Holliday
      Re:Re:Protect The Telegraph Pub ? Con Party appears to wish to help- 10/08/19 20:36:00 John Cameron
      Re:Re:Protect The Telegraph Pub ? Con Party appears to wish to help- 11/08/19 13:49:00 Mike Harris
         Re:Re:Re:Protect The Telegraph Pub ? Con Party appears to wish to help- 12/08/19 08:31:00 Judy Allen
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Protect The Telegraph Pub ? Con Party appears to wish to help- 12/08/19 09:11:00 Ivonne Holliday
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Protect The Telegraph Pub ? Con Party appears to wish to help- 12/08/19 09:20:00 Nicholas Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Protect The Telegraph Pub ? Con Party appears to wish to help- 12/08/19 09:42:00 Lucille Grant
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Protect The Telegraph Pub ? Con Party appears to wish to help- 12/08/19 09:51:00 Ivonne Holliday
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Protect The Telegraph Pub ? Con Party appears to wish to help- 12/08/19 10:01:00 Matt Palmer
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Protect The Telegraph Pub ? Con Party appears to wish to help- 12/08/19 10:06:00 Ivonne Holliday
                           21 Random Names Won't Swing It12/08/19 10:46:00 John Cameron
                              Re:21 Random Names Won't Swing It12/08/19 11:44:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                 Re:Re:21 Random Names Won't Swing It12/08/19 11:47:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                    Re:Re:Re:21 Random Names Won't Swing It12/08/19 11:56:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                       Reply12/08/19 11:58:00 Michael Ixer
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:21 Random Names Won't Swing It12/08/19 12:11:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:21 Random Names Won't Swing It12/08/19 12:23:00 John Cameron
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:21 Random Names Won't Swing It12/08/19 12:49:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:21 Random Names Won't Swing It12/08/19 13:27:00 Lucille Grant
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:21 Random Names Won't Swing It12/08/19 13:29:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                                      Historic England Listing12/08/19 15:18:00 John Cameron
                                                         Re:Historic England Listing12/08/19 17:20:00 Andy Pike
                                                            Re:Re:Historic England Listing12/08/19 17:44:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Historic England Listing12/08/19 17:52:00 Andy Pike
                                                                  Justine's petition12/08/19 20:50:00 Lucille Grant
                                                                     Re:Justine's petition 12/08/19 23:41:00 John Cameron
                                                                        Re:Re:Justine's petition 13/08/19 08:27:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Justine's petition 13/08/19 09:35:00 John Cameron
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Justine's petition 13/08/19 10:15:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Justine's petition 13/08/19 10:51:00 John Cameron
                                                                                    Reply13/08/19 10:59:00 Michael Ixer
                                                                                       Reply13/08/19 13:10:00 Michael Ixer
                                                                                       Re:Reply13/08/19 18:55:00 Lucille Grant
                                                                                          Re:Re:Reply14/08/19 08:50:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
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                                                                                                Common Land and the Telegraph15/08/19 10:23:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                   Bruton Knowles ‘Valuation” of the WPCC Land Within the Telegraph Title16/08/19 08:51:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                   The Telegraph16/08/19 19:35:00 Brian Rutherford
                                                                                                      Re:The Telegraph17/08/19 18:49:00 David Thompson
                                                                                                         Re:Re:The Telegraph21/08/19 13:25:00 Brian Rutherford
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:The Telegraph23/08/19 09:14:00 Leslie McDonnell
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:The Telegraph23/08/19 09:43:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Telegraph08/09/19 00:05:00 Clive Williams
                                                                        Re:Re:Justine's petition 17/08/19 18:31:00 David Thompson
                              Re:21 Random Names Won't Swing It17/08/19 18:24:00 David Thompson
                                 Common Land / Telegraph18/08/19 08:12:00 John Cameron
                                    Re:Common Land / Telegraph18/08/19 08:13:00 John Cameron
   Re:Protect The Telegraph Pub ? Con Party appears to wish to help- 21/08/19 09:20:00 David Thompson
      Re:Re:Protect The Telegraph Pub ? Con Party appears to wish to help- 21/08/19 10:00:00 Caroline Whitehead
         What is the Putney Society doing?23/08/19 08:43:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
            Re:What is the Putney Society doing?23/08/19 09:41:00 Lucille Grant
               Re:Re:What is the Putney Society doing?23/08/19 10:20:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                  Re:Re:Re:What is the Putney Society doing?23/08/19 10:49:00 Lucille Grant
                     How Much Is Common Land....?23/08/19 11:06:00 John Cameron
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:What is the Putney Society doing?23/08/19 11:21:00 Robert Wheeler
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is the Putney Society doing?23/08/19 11:27:00 Lucille Grant
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is the Putney Society doing?23/08/19 11:47:00 Robert Wheeler
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is the Putney Society doing?23/08/19 11:58:00 Jonathan Callaway
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is the Putney Society doing?23/08/19 15:30:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is the Putney Society doing?23/08/19 16:04:00 Jonathan Callaway
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is the Putney Society doing?23/08/19 17:23:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is the Putney Society doing?23/08/19 21:04:00 John Cameron
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is the Putney Society doing?06/09/19 11:34:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is the Putney Society doing?06/09/19 11:42:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is the Putney Society doing?06/09/19 12:22:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                                   Re:What is the Putney Society doing?06/09/19 21:46:00 Jonathan Callaway
                                                      Re:Re:What is the Putney Society doing?06/09/19 22:56:00 Lucille Grant
                                                         Putney Society Position 07/09/19 07:23:00 John Cameron
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      Re:Re:Protect The Telegraph Pub ? Con Party appears to wish to help- 09/09/19 16:10:00 Chantal Blake-Milton

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