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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?
Posted by: David Ainsworth
Date/Time: 29/08/25 14:22:00

Sorry, Mr Barrs, but I should have alluded to this aspect of our RK lessons at school:-

"Is the Old Testament history of Israel bloody?"

Google AI helps:-
"Yes, the history of Israel as depicted in the Old Testament contains numerous violent and bloody events, including mass killings, warfare, and conquest, often attributed to divine command or the actions of the Israelites against their enemies. While the extent to which these events are historically accurate or allegorical is debated among scholars, the biblical narrative itself is replete with accounts of conflict and violence.

Examples of Bloodshed in the Old Testament
The Conquest of Canaan:
The Book of Joshua describes the violent conquest and destruction of the Canaanite cities.
Wars Against Other Peoples:
Other narratives detail wars against nations like the Midianites, with orders for the complete annihilation of males.
Divine Intervention:
God commands mass killings, such as during the Exodus with the death of Egyptian firstborns, and the destruction of cities like Sodom and Gomorrah.
Internal Strife:
The Book of Judges describes instances of deception and violence within Israel itself, such as the story of the Levite's concubine in Benjamin (Judges 19), and the subsequent violence against the tribe of Benjamin.
Exile and Conquest:
The later history of Israel includes the destruction of Jerusalem and the First Temple by the Babylonians, and the subsequent Babylonian exile of the people.

Interpretations and Context
Theological Framework:
Many of these violent events are presented within a theological framework, portraying God's wrath against disobedience or as a means to protect his people.
Historical vs. Literary:
The Old Testament is a complex work that includes national history, religious narrative, and theological exposition. Scholars debate its historical reliability, with some arguing for minimal historical evidence for certain events.
"Tricky Bits":
The violent passages in the Old Testament are often referred to as the "tricky bits," forcing readers to grapple with difficult themes of violence, faith, and the nature of God."

Religion, eh!


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Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?24/05/25 13:52:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?24/05/25 15:38:00 Michael Brigo
      Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?24/05/25 16:10:00 Lucille Grant
         Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?21/08/25 14:35:00 Miles Thompson
      Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?25/05/25 11:24:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?25/05/25 15:32:00 Michael Brigo
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?25/05/25 15:33:00 Michael Brigo
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?26/05/25 10:07:00 John Hawkes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?20/07/25 10:34:00 Hugh Thompson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?20/07/25 15:06:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?25/05/25 11:57:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?25/05/25 18:41:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?26/05/25 10:21:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?28/08/25 03:18:00 Patrick D Barrs
         Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?28/08/25 08:50:00 David Ainsworth
         Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?29/08/25 13:57:00 John Hawkes
            Reply29/08/25 14:15:00 Michael Ixer
         Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?29/08/25 14:22:00 David Ainsworth
   Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?05/07/25 12:56:00 John Hawkes
   Sudan:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?11/07/25 12:58:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Sudan:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?30/08/25 00:46:00 Patrick D Barrs
   Reply11/07/25 14:21:00 Michael Ixer
      Re:Reply11/07/25 15:12:00 Lucille Grant
         Re:Re:Reply12/07/25 12:18:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Reply11/07/25 18:36:00 John Hawkes
         Reply11/07/25 21:13:00 Michael Ixer
            Re:Reply12/07/25 09:37:00 John Hawkes
               Reply12/07/25 11:03:00 Michael Ixer
                  Re:Reply12/07/25 12:37:00 John Hawkes
                     Reply12/07/25 13:46:00 Michael Ixer
                        Reply12/07/25 23:22:00 Michael Ixer
         Re:Re:Reply11/07/25 21:19:00 Ed Robinson
   Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?13/07/25 11:58:00 John Hawkes
   Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?15/07/25 21:49:00 John Hawkes
   Why is it only Israel and not Syria that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?17/07/25 14:38:00 John Hawkes
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      Re:Why is it only Israel and not Syria that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?18/07/25 16:39:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?23/07/25 09:57:00 Alexander MacLeod
      Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?23/07/25 10:16:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?23/07/25 12:02:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?23/07/25 12:50:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?23/07/25 10:33:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?23/07/25 14:17:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?23/07/25 15:42:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?23/07/25 18:38:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?23/07/25 20:30:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?25/07/25 14:31:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?29/07/25 08:20:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?29/07/25 13:05:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?30/07/25 13:14:00 John Hawkes
   Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'? Ask the BBC !29/07/25 16:41:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?10/08/25 14:01:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?12/08/25 15:20:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?12/08/25 20:59:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?14/08/25 08:53:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?14/08/25 09:50:00 David Ainsworth
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?14/08/25 13:24:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?15/08/25 13:40:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?16/08/25 15:40:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?18/08/25 16:52:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?19/08/25 16:31:00 John Hawkes
   Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?18/08/25 15:06:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?18/08/25 20:10:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?19/08/25 19:44:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?19/08/25 20:18:00 Steven Rose
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?20/08/25 16:03:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?20/08/25 16:18:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?21/08/25 14:16:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?20/08/25 15:56:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?20/08/25 18:21:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?21/08/25 16:06:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?20/08/25 18:24:00 Steven Rose
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?21/08/25 00:26:00 David Ainsworth
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?21/08/25 08:04:00 Steven Rose
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?21/08/25 09:10:00 Robert Wheeler
                           Brilliant21/08/25 09:51:00 David Ainsworth
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?21/08/25 16:30:00 John Hawkes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?21/08/25 09:38:00 David Ainsworth
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?21/08/25 16:23:00 John Hawkes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?21/08/25 16:21:00 John Hawkes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?21/08/25 17:00:00 Steven Rose
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?21/08/25 18:01:00 David Ainsworth
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?21/08/25 18:15:00 Steven Rose
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?21/08/25 20:19:00 David Ainsworth
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?22/08/25 15:44:00 John Hawkes
                                 Five thousand years ago the Canaanites21/08/25 20:23:00 David Ainsworth
                                    Re:Five thousand years ago the Canaanites21/08/25 20:49:00 Steven Rose
                                       Re:Re:Five thousand years ago the Canaanites21/08/25 22:25:00 David Ainsworth
                                       Unbroken?21/08/25 22:57:00 David Ainsworth
                                       Continuity or massive change?21/08/25 23:53:00 David Ainsworth
                                          Re:Continuity or massive change?22/08/25 10:22:00 John Hawkes
                                       Re:Re:Five thousand years ago the Canaanites23/08/25 12:21:00 Philippa Bond
                                          Re:Re:Re:Five thousand years ago the Canaanites23/08/25 12:33:00 John Hawkes
                                    Reply21/08/25 20:56:00 Michael Ixer
                                       Re:Reply23/08/25 00:30:00 Steven Rose
                                          Re:Re:Reply23/08/25 08:57:00 David Ainsworth
                                             Re:Re:Re:Reply23/08/25 12:00:00 John Hawkes
                                          Re:Re:Reply23/08/25 13:05:00 John Hawkes
                                             Re:Re:Re:Reply23/08/25 16:40:00 Steven Rose
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/08/25 13:19:00 John Hawkes
                                          Re:Re:Reply25/08/25 15:11:00 David Ainsworth
                                             Re:Re:Re:Reply26/08/25 10:54:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?26/08/25 23:16:00 Alexander MacLeod
      Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?27/08/25 10:45:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?27/08/25 17:56:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?27/08/25 18:20:00 Gerry Boyce
         Re:Re:Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?27/08/25 23:41:00 Alexander MacLeod
   Re:Why is it only Israel that daily makes the news re 'genocide'?29/08/25 12:26:00 John Hawkes
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