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Topic: Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value
Posted by: John Cameron
Date/Time: 18/05/17 09:20:00

Jon, Sue

The process is straightforward and entails no cost or risk to the applicant. In this case the obvious applicant is Friends of Wandsworth Park, given that FofWP is a community group formed specifically to protect and enhance the park etc. 

A community group needs to have 21 'members' to qualify, but that is easily satisfied by getting 21 neighbours to join.  Members must be on the local electoral role, so don't ask all your cousins in Auchtermuchty to sign up.

The sooner the application goes in the better to get the clock ticking.  Wandsworth will register the application and then have 8 weeks to decide on it.  The park meets the criteria for an asset of community value.  There is a current use that furthers the social wellbeing of the local community and it is realistic to think this can continue.

The council officers will be able to advise whether an ACV application should be specifically for the parcel of land in question, or alternatively for the whole park including the parcel.  In either case Wandsworth will struggle to refuse ACV status, as it is self evident the land meets all the criteria and they would have no grounds on which to do so.

Once listed as an ACV the land cannot be sold by WBC (unless the lease is for less than 25 years) without triggering the moratorium.  The initial ACV lasts for 5 years, but is renewable. 

In terms of planning an application which seeks to replace the ACV with a development incompatible with community use should be refused to prevent the loss of community facilities. In this case the land is lost as public park and becomes private, with no rights of access, and planning is C3 - dwelling.  The planning officers / committee would need to take an current application for an ACV into account as it is material in reaching a decision.  

So the sooner an ACV application is submitted for Wandsworth Park the better.  

From looking at the application online, I note that the application was declared valid on 9 May 2017, the day after it was submitted.  Consultation letters must go out within 7 days and site notices be placed on / near the site within 14 days.  There are NO dates for when consultation starts or ends nor copies of the consultation letters or the site notice.  There are no details of the case officer, or when the application will be advertised, nor are there any comments for or against the application.

As a trustee of Wimbledon and Putney Commons I take the view that the sale of the land is a concern.  It may 'only' be 176 sq m of public park, but the question is whether any loss is acceptable.  On the commons it's been only too easy for someone to have a bit they need or desire.  Recent examples include the car park of the Royal Wimbledon Golf Club (was common, now a private car park), Putney Bowls Club (freehold common, now exclsuively under the control of Wandsworth), the common land lost at Putney Hospital which is now a tarmacked and fully enclosed road, the Spencer's beer garden and so on. 

As Wandsworth said when defending their land grab at Putney Hospital - it's only a little bit and you have so much.

My home backs onto Putney Common, so may I have an additional 176 sq m of garden? 

No, of course not. 







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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Application to annex part of Wandsworth Park15/05/17 14:31:00 Graham Earl
   Re:Application to annex part of Wandsworth Park15/05/17 16:56:00 Sean Hodges
   Re:Application to annex part of Wandsworth Park15/05/17 18:06:00 Lucille Grant
      Re:Re:Application to annex part of Wandsworth Park15/05/17 19:32:00 Judy Allen
         Re:Re:Re:Application to annex part of Wandsworth Park15/05/17 19:40:00 Bunny Payne
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Application to annex part of Wandsworth Park15/05/17 20:13:00 John Cameron
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Application to annex part of Wandsworth Park15/05/17 21:43:00 Graham Earl
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Application to annex part of Wandsworth Park15/05/17 20:49:00 Sue Hammond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Application to annex part of Wandsworth Park15/05/17 22:03:00 Jon Roberts
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Application to annex part of Wandsworth Park16/05/17 10:31:00 David Ainsworth
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Application to annex part of Wandsworth Park16/05/17 13:24:00 Stephen Walker
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Application to annex part of Wandsworth Park16/05/17 16:47:00 William Smith
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Application to annex part of Wandsworth Park16/05/17 16:57:00 William Smith
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Application to annex part of Wandsworth Park16/05/17 18:13:00 David Ainsworth
                           Application url16/05/17 19:47:00 Michael Ixer
                              Re:Application url16/05/17 20:36:00 William Smith
                                 Re:Re: Friends of Wandsworth Park?16/05/17 20:56:00 Nicholas Evans
                                    Re:Re:Re: Friends of Wandsworth Park?17/05/17 14:17:00 Sue Buck
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re: Friends of Wandsworth Park?17/05/17 14:33:00 Judy Allen
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Friends of Wandsworth Park?17/05/17 16:12:00 Sue Buck
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Friends of Wandsworth Park?17/05/17 17:11:00 Judy Allen
                                 Re:Re:Application url16/05/17 22:51:00 Stephen Walker
                                    Re:Re:Re:Application url16/05/17 22:57:00 Sue Hammond
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Application url17/05/17 12:00:00 William Smith
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Application url17/05/17 12:21:00 Sue Hammond
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Application url17/05/17 12:58:00 William Smith
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Application url17/05/17 13:14:00 Lucille Grant
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Application url17/05/17 13:26:00 Sue Hammond
                                                      Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 17/05/17 15:47:00 John Cameron
                                                         Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 17/05/17 16:07:00 Sue Hammond
                                                            Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 18/05/17 05:59:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 18/05/17 07:05:00 Jon Roberts
                                                         Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 18/05/17 07:27:00 Sue Buck
                                                            Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 18/05/17 09:20:00 John Cameron
                                                            Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 18/05/17 09:22:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 18/05/17 15:10:00 Sue Hammond
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 18/05/17 17:29:00 Pat Gross
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 19/05/17 15:10:00 Gavin Franklin
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 19/05/17 17:13:00 Jon Roberts
                                                                        Historic England - Wandsworth Park - Grade II listing details20/05/17 19:24:00 John Cameron
                                                                           Re:Historic England - Wandsworth Park - Grade II listing details21/05/17 09:15:00 David Austin
                                                                              Re:Re:Historic England - Wandsworth Park - Grade II listing details21/05/17 10:25:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Historic England - Wandsworth Park - Grade II listing details21/05/17 10:51:00 David Austin
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Historic England - Wandsworth Park - Grade II listing details21/05/17 19:10:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Historic England - Wandsworth Park - Grade II listing details21/05/17 20:46:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Historic England - Wandsworth Park - Grade II listing details21/05/17 20:47:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 21/05/17 18:10:00 Pat Gross
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 22/05/17 09:36:00 Sarah Roberts
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 22/05/17 10:53:00 Judy Allen
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 22/05/17 10:56:00 Sarah Roberts
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 22/05/17 11:10:00 Judy Allen
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 22/05/17 11:14:00 Sarah Roberts
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 22/05/17 12:11:00 Judy Allen
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 22/05/17 12:26:00 Sarah Roberts
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 22/05/17 12:39:00 Michael Ixer
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friends of Wandsworth Park / Assets of Community Value 22/05/17 20:51:00 William Smith
                                                                                                      Land Grab Application Going Nowhere Fast23/05/17 11:06:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                         Re:Land Grab Application Going Nowhere Fast23/05/17 12:00:00 Nicholas Evans
   Re:Application to annex part of Wandsworth Park23/05/17 12:04:00 Jon Roberts
      Dear Wendy @ WBC...25/05/17 15:37:00 John Cameron
         Re:Dear Wendy @ WBC...25/05/17 17:03:00 Lucille Grant
            Re:Re:Dear Wendy @ WBC...25/05/17 17:12:00 Judy Allen
               Re:Re:Re:Dear Wendy @ WBC...25/05/17 17:21:00 Sue Hammond
                  Dear Mr Cameron...25/05/17 17:37:00 John Cameron
                     Re:Dear Mr Cameron...25/05/17 17:58:00 Michael Ixer
                        Re:Re: Secret "agreements in principle"25/05/17 18:51:00 Nicholas Evans
                           Re:Re:Re: Secret "agreements in principle"25/05/17 19:16:00 Caroline Whitehead
                              Re:Re:Re:Re: Secret "agreements in principle"25/05/17 19:34:00 Nicholas Evans
                                 Secret agreements - but the council prefers the term "local plan aspirations".25/05/17 20:02:00 David Austin
                                    Re:Secret agreements - but the council prefers the term "local plan aspirations".25/05/17 20:46:00 David Ainsworth
                                       Dear Marcia25/05/17 21:12:00 John Cameron
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Secret "agreements in principle"26/05/17 09:40:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                    Land Grab Application Picks Up Momentum26/05/17 11:35:00 John Cameron
                                       Re:Land Grab Application Picks Up Momentum01/06/17 09:25:00 Sue Hammond
                                          Land Grab Planning Application About To Be Declared Invalid...?01/06/17 18:00:00 John Cameron
                                             Re:Land Grab Planning Application About To Be Declared Invalid...?01/06/17 18:34:00 Adrian Pearce
                                                Re:Re:Land Grab Planning Application About To Be Declared Invalid...?01/06/17 18:46:00 John Cameron
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Land Grab Planning Application About To Be Declared Invalid...?01/06/17 23:35:00 Sarah Roberts
                                                      New Date For 'Public Consultation' of Invalid Application...02/06/17 13:19:00 John Cameron
                                                         Land Grab Application Is Now Invalid *02/06/17 15:43:00 John Cameron
   Re:Application to annex part of Wandsworth Park05/06/17 12:34:00 Jon Roberts

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