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Topic: Re:Re:Re: Pillock
Posted by: David Austin
Date/Time: 03/12/15 10:59:00

Sue, he is not going to get it.

And if he had actually read the response from the conservators yesterday he might have realised that none of his questions were answered definitively or at all. For example, he asked if the conservators were going to publish the QSR. The response was the usual claptrap I have come to expect from this charity: it did not say it would and it did not say it wouldn’t. In other words it didn’t answer the question. It did though say it would spend more money (estimated at £20 000) on getting another QSR – and it did not say whether it would or would not publish that one either.

The conservators did however say the following yesterday:

“The Conservators fully acknowledge the need for openness and transparency and are aware that more needs to be done, particularly on contentious issues, to keep Levy-payers and the general public informed”.

An admission that they have NOT been sufficiently open and transparent in the past and that they need to work on this.

A glimmer of hope, a rare acknowledgement of past failures perhaps? No – because yesterday we also learnt (not directly from them of course, but from Nick) that they REFUSE to allow the publication of the Montagu Evans report – that’s the contentious report that establishes the 1.5 million pound undersale. The same report that precipitated the breakdown in trust and the appalling mess the charity finds itself in (or what the Charity Commission politely calls the WPCC’s “current governance failure”).

If – as the conservators allege – the terms of reference of the Montagu Evans report are not correct, why not publish the report so that levy payers can judge for themselves? If the report is not up to standard, why not publish it so that we can all see its faults exposed? Or does the WPCC expect the public, despite us being told by the Charity Commission that it had broken the law (or technically “breached the Act”), to simply believe and accept whatever they say?

Those days are over and only a fool would continue to take at face value anything that the WPCC says. The breakdown in trust is not just among the conservators. There is a breakdown in trust between it and levy payers. But it refuses to acknowledge it and so continues with the secrecy and lies.

It is not fit for purpose. Until it owns up to the failures of the past and changes the way it is managed, it is going to continue to fail.


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Next Conservator's meeting26/11/15 15:08:00 Katrina Black
   Re:Next Conservator's meeting29/11/15 10:56:00 John Cameron
      Re:Re:Next Conservator's meeting29/11/15 11:14:00 David Austin
   Re:Next Conservator's meeting29/11/15 15:37:00 Katrina Black
      Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 18:40:00 Nicholas Evans
         Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 19:11:00 Caroline Whitehead
            Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 20:22:00 Jonty Nicholls
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 20:26:00 Nicholas Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 20:24:00 Nicholas Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 20:37:00 Jonty Nicholls
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 21:07:00 Nicholas Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 20:51:00 Caroline Whitehead
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 22:06:00 Sue Hammond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 23:10:00 Caroline Whitehead
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 22:21:00 Nicholas Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 05:16:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 08:34:00 David Austin
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 08:57:00 Sue Hammond
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 10:02:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 10:34:00 Nicholas Evans
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 11:44:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 10:48:00 Sue Hammond
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 11:22:00 David Austin
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 11:59:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 13:39:00 Nicholas Evans
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 13:58:00 Sue Hammond
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 14:39:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 14:47:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 15:06:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 11:48:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 12:14:00 David Austin
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 12:24:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 14:03:00 Nicholas Evans
                                          Just ask nicely01/12/15 12:28:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                             Re:Just ask nicely01/12/15 14:44:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                Re:Re:Just ask nicely01/12/15 15:02:00 Sue Hammond
                                                   Just ask nicely02/12/15 12:21:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                      WPCC news release02/12/15 13:23:00 Adrian Pearce
                                                      Re:Just ask nicely02/12/15 13:24:00 Jonathan Callaway
                                                         Re:Re:Just ask nicely02/12/15 14:09:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Just ask nicely02/12/15 14:20:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Just ask nicely02/12/15 14:53:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                            Re:Re:Re: Roehampton Vale land02/12/15 14:24:00 Adam Gray
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re: Roehampton Vale land02/12/15 15:53:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Roehampton Vale land02/12/15 23:11:00 Adam Gray
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Roehampton Vale land02/12/15 23:43:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                        Stag Lane v Putney Common (again)03/12/15 01:29:00 John Cameron
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Roehampton Vale land03/12/15 01:38:00 Adam Gray
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Roehampton Vale land03/12/15 02:28:00 John Cameron
                                                         Sorry to Miss Tonight's Meeting But....02/12/15 14:23:00 John Cameron
                                                            Re: Disconnect02/12/15 14:41:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                               Re:Re: Disconnect02/12/15 14:58:00 John Cameron
                                                                  Re:Re:Re: Disconnect02/12/15 15:40:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re: Disconnect02/12/15 16:06:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re: Disconnect02/12/15 16:16:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                               Re:Re: Disingenuous cover-ups02/12/15 15:25:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                  Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 15:38:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 15:55:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 16:15:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 16:17:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 16:18:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 16:42:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 16:57:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 17:00:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 17:17:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 17:41:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 03/12/15 08:27:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 03/12/15 09:21:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                                                                                Re: Pillock03/12/15 09:28:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                   Re:Re: Pillock03/12/15 09:34:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re: Pillock03/12/15 10:04:00 Matt Palmer
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re: Pillock03/12/15 10:10:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                   Re:Re: Pillock03/12/15 10:08:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re: Pillock03/12/15 10:59:00 David Austin
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re: Pillock03/12/15 11:30:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                         Terms of Reference of Montagu Evans QSR03/12/15 11:31:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                            Re:The Open Meeting: one ex-Conservators view03/12/15 11:48:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                            Re:Terms of Reference of Montagu Evans QSR03/12/15 11:51:00 David Austin
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Terms of Reference of Montagu Evans QSR03/12/15 12:40:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Terms of Reference of Montagu Evans QSR03/12/15 13:31:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Terms of Reference of Montagu Evans QSR03/12/15 13:52:00 Stephen Walker
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Terms of Reference of Montagu Evans QSR03/12/15 14:26:00 Robert Wheeler
                                                                                                                  Re: Still a disconnect03/12/15 14:07:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                     Re:Re: Still a disconnect03/12/15 14:47:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                                                                     Re:Re: Still a disconnect03/12/15 16:58:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re: Still a disconnect03/12/15 18:07:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re: Still a disconnect03/12/15 18:29:00 Andy Pike
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Still a disconnect03/12/15 20:05:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Still a disconnect03/12/15 22:23:00 Andy Pike
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re: Still a disconnect04/12/15 04:29:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Still a disconnect04/12/15 07:28:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                 Still more disconnection04/12/15 09:18:00 David Austin
                                                                                                                                    Re:Still more disconnection04/12/15 10:07:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Still more disconnection04/12/15 10:23:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Still more disconnection04/12/15 10:29:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Still more disconnection04/12/15 10:55:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Misrepresentation04/12/15 11:07:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Misrepresentation04/12/15 11:57:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Misrepresentation04/12/15 14:48:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Misrepresentation04/12/15 15:56:00 David Austin
                                                                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Misrepresentation04/12/15 16:06:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                               Code of Conduct - Conflicts of Interest policy04/12/15 16:35:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                                                                                  Re:Code of Conduct - Conflicts of Interest policy04/12/15 17:04:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Code of Conduct - Conflicts of Interest policy04/12/15 17:44:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Code of Conduct - Conflicts of Interest policy04/12/15 18:04:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Code of Conduct - Conflicts of Interest policy04/12/15 19:22:00 Robert Wheeler
                                                                                                                                                                              Misconduct / Conflicts of Interest05/12/15 02:13:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re:Misconduct / Conflicts of Interest05/12/15 10:11:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Misconduct / Conflicts of Interest05/12/15 12:01:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Misconduct / Conflicts of Interest05/12/15 12:46:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Misconduct / Conflicts of Interest05/12/15 12:56:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Misconduct / Conflicts of Interest05/12/15 15:06:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Misconduct / Conflicts of Interest05/12/15 15:21:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Documents05/12/15 16:01:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re:Documents05/12/15 16:55:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re:Re:Documents05/12/15 17:12:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Documents05/12/15 17:56:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Documents05/12/15 18:11:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Documents05/12/15 23:46:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Documents06/12/15 01:03:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Documents06/12/15 01:16:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Documents06/12/15 10:15:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Documents05/12/15 18:38:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Documents05/12/15 20:23:00 Andy Pike
                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Documents06/12/15 11:21:00 David Austin
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Absolute balderdash06/12/15 11:49:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Absolute balderdash06/12/15 12:09:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Absolute balderdash06/12/15 12:15:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Absolute balderdash06/12/15 13:54:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Absolute Nolans / Conflicts of Interest06/12/15 19:01:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Audit and Risk Terms of Reference, a Clarification09/12/15 17:44:00 John Cameron

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