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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous
Posted by: Chantal Blake-Milton
Date/Time: 03/12/15 09:21:00

The pejorative term "pillock" is derived from the Scandinavian word "pillicock" meaning penis.  Highly insulting, not remotely apposite, and in Ms Hammond's case, anatomically incorrect.  A breach of the forum code of conduct for which you should man up and apologise Jonty.

You have brushed aside my suggestion that there must be a due process for the valuation of land by the Council when purchasing land, particularly when it is Common Land, a crucial ransom strip without which the £30m development could not have progressed.  Various websites, including the Council's own, indicate that land values are mainly based on the value of properties closest to the site.

As Council tax-payers and Commons levy payers, we should be entitled to access all information pertaining to the negotiations between WBC and WPCC for this ransom strip to a landlocked site, not least to explain how the rounded sum of £250,000 rose to £350,000. 

The Montagu Evans retrospective QSR has been paid for out of our taxes on the Common, and should be publicly available.  It does not belong solely to the Charity, it belongs to us.

Adam seems confused about the land swap down at Stag Lane, so to clarify how the levy-payers have been ripped off yet again, here are property values for both areas, according to an online site.

Average overall property value in SW15 - £828,856
Average overall property value in Stag Lane - £413,485
Average overall property value in Lower Common South - £3,667,525

Hardly a like-for-like swap.

John is correct in the main that WBC buy low and sell high, however the Elliott playing fields were sold at a huge undervalue to the Council tax payer without planning consent (and in this case Listed Building Consent) as pointed out to the Committee at a Town Hall meeting by a distinguished FRICS.  To add to this deficit, Barratt initially promised to fund the expensive SUDS-compliant private access road (leading only to Putney Rise.)  Residents were subsequently informed by the Council that the tax-payer would fund this road as stipulated in the marketing contract.

Curiously, this access road also cost around £350,000 so is the Council in effect operating a "flat-fee" for any access road?  What were the negotiations between WBC and the developers on access?  Did the developers balk at paying the market price, which we now know to £1.9m?

What is clear from this sordid saga, is that levy-payers have been short-changed to the tune of £1.55m and must be compensated.  There should be a full enquiry to prevent this happening again, and if the WPCC insurers are involved, this may happen automatically.

Did Adam or Jonty attend the meeting?  It would be useful to have some feedback.








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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Next Conservator's meeting26/11/15 15:08:00 Katrina Black
   Re:Next Conservator's meeting29/11/15 10:56:00 John Cameron
      Re:Re:Next Conservator's meeting29/11/15 11:14:00 David Austin
   Re:Next Conservator's meeting29/11/15 15:37:00 Katrina Black
      Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 18:40:00 Nicholas Evans
         Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 19:11:00 Caroline Whitehead
            Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 20:22:00 Jonty Nicholls
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 20:26:00 Nicholas Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 20:24:00 Nicholas Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 20:37:00 Jonty Nicholls
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 21:07:00 Nicholas Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 20:51:00 Caroline Whitehead
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 22:06:00 Sue Hammond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 23:10:00 Caroline Whitehead
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00030/11/15 22:21:00 Nicholas Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 05:16:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 08:34:00 David Austin
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 08:57:00 Sue Hammond
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 10:02:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 10:34:00 Nicholas Evans
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 11:44:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 10:48:00 Sue Hammond
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 11:22:00 David Austin
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 11:59:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 13:39:00 Nicholas Evans
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 13:58:00 Sue Hammond
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 14:39:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 14:47:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 15:06:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 11:48:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 12:14:00 David Austin
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 12:24:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should they spend another £25,00001/12/15 14:03:00 Nicholas Evans
                                          Just ask nicely01/12/15 12:28:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                             Re:Just ask nicely01/12/15 14:44:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                Re:Re:Just ask nicely01/12/15 15:02:00 Sue Hammond
                                                   Just ask nicely02/12/15 12:21:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                      WPCC news release02/12/15 13:23:00 Adrian Pearce
                                                      Re:Just ask nicely02/12/15 13:24:00 Jonathan Callaway
                                                         Re:Re:Just ask nicely02/12/15 14:09:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Just ask nicely02/12/15 14:20:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Just ask nicely02/12/15 14:53:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                            Re:Re:Re: Roehampton Vale land02/12/15 14:24:00 Adam Gray
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re: Roehampton Vale land02/12/15 15:53:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Roehampton Vale land02/12/15 23:11:00 Adam Gray
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Roehampton Vale land02/12/15 23:43:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                        Stag Lane v Putney Common (again)03/12/15 01:29:00 John Cameron
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Roehampton Vale land03/12/15 01:38:00 Adam Gray
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Roehampton Vale land03/12/15 02:28:00 John Cameron
                                                         Sorry to Miss Tonight's Meeting But....02/12/15 14:23:00 John Cameron
                                                            Re: Disconnect02/12/15 14:41:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                               Re:Re: Disconnect02/12/15 14:58:00 John Cameron
                                                                  Re:Re:Re: Disconnect02/12/15 15:40:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re: Disconnect02/12/15 16:06:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re: Disconnect02/12/15 16:16:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                               Re:Re: Disingenuous cover-ups02/12/15 15:25:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                  Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 15:38:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 15:55:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 16:15:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 16:17:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 16:18:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 16:42:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 16:57:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 17:00:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 17:17:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 02/12/15 17:41:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 03/12/15 08:27:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Disingenuous 03/12/15 09:21:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                                                                                Re: Pillock03/12/15 09:28:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                   Re:Re: Pillock03/12/15 09:34:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re: Pillock03/12/15 10:04:00 Matt Palmer
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re: Pillock03/12/15 10:10:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                   Re:Re: Pillock03/12/15 10:08:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re: Pillock03/12/15 10:59:00 David Austin
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re: Pillock03/12/15 11:30:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                         Terms of Reference of Montagu Evans QSR03/12/15 11:31:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                            Re:The Open Meeting: one ex-Conservators view03/12/15 11:48:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                            Re:Terms of Reference of Montagu Evans QSR03/12/15 11:51:00 David Austin
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Terms of Reference of Montagu Evans QSR03/12/15 12:40:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Terms of Reference of Montagu Evans QSR03/12/15 13:31:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Terms of Reference of Montagu Evans QSR03/12/15 13:52:00 Stephen Walker
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Terms of Reference of Montagu Evans QSR03/12/15 14:26:00 Robert Wheeler
                                                                                                                  Re: Still a disconnect03/12/15 14:07:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                     Re:Re: Still a disconnect03/12/15 14:47:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                                                                     Re:Re: Still a disconnect03/12/15 16:58:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re: Still a disconnect03/12/15 18:07:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re: Still a disconnect03/12/15 18:29:00 Andy Pike
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Still a disconnect03/12/15 20:05:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Still a disconnect03/12/15 22:23:00 Andy Pike
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re: Still a disconnect04/12/15 04:29:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Still a disconnect04/12/15 07:28:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                 Still more disconnection04/12/15 09:18:00 David Austin
                                                                                                                                    Re:Still more disconnection04/12/15 10:07:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Still more disconnection04/12/15 10:23:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Still more disconnection04/12/15 10:29:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Still more disconnection04/12/15 10:55:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Misrepresentation04/12/15 11:07:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Misrepresentation04/12/15 11:57:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                                                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Misrepresentation04/12/15 14:48:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Misrepresentation04/12/15 15:56:00 David Austin
                                                                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Misrepresentation04/12/15 16:06:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                               Code of Conduct - Conflicts of Interest policy04/12/15 16:35:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                                                                                  Re:Code of Conduct - Conflicts of Interest policy04/12/15 17:04:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Code of Conduct - Conflicts of Interest policy04/12/15 17:44:00 Nicholas Evans
                                                                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Code of Conduct - Conflicts of Interest policy04/12/15 18:04:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Code of Conduct - Conflicts of Interest policy04/12/15 19:22:00 Robert Wheeler
                                                                                                                                                                              Misconduct / Conflicts of Interest05/12/15 02:13:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re:Misconduct / Conflicts of Interest05/12/15 10:11:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Misconduct / Conflicts of Interest05/12/15 12:01:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Misconduct / Conflicts of Interest05/12/15 12:46:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Misconduct / Conflicts of Interest05/12/15 12:56:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Misconduct / Conflicts of Interest05/12/15 15:06:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Misconduct / Conflicts of Interest05/12/15 15:21:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Documents05/12/15 16:01:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re:Documents05/12/15 16:55:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                                                                                                                                                         Re:Re:Documents05/12/15 17:12:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Documents05/12/15 17:56:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Documents05/12/15 18:11:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Documents05/12/15 23:46:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Documents06/12/15 01:03:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Documents06/12/15 01:16:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Documents06/12/15 10:15:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Documents05/12/15 18:38:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Documents05/12/15 20:23:00 Andy Pike
                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Documents06/12/15 11:21:00 David Austin
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Absolute balderdash06/12/15 11:49:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Absolute balderdash06/12/15 12:09:00 Sue Hammond
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Absolute balderdash06/12/15 12:15:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Absolute balderdash06/12/15 13:54:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Absolute Nolans / Conflicts of Interest06/12/15 19:01:00 John Cameron
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       Audit and Risk Terms of Reference, a Clarification09/12/15 17:44:00 John Cameron

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