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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.
Posted by: Ivonne Holliday
Date/Time: 27/07/25 14:37:00

Hello Steven,

You are now being disingenuous.  I have lost count of the amount of times you have asked the question as to the meaning of genocide, hence my exasperation!

By the way, which David Ainsworth were you referring to?  I ask before but you forgot to answer.

I sent you this before but will repeat it to see if you understand it better this time.  According to the Oxford Dictionary:
Genocide:  the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular NATION OR ETHNIC GROUP with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

And I add, also from the Oxford Dictionary:
Ethnic cleansing: the mass expulsion or killing of members of one ETHNIC OR RELIGIOUS GROUP in an area by those of another.

Do you like the Israelis?  I do.  Do you like Jews?  I do.  Do you like the Palestinians? I do. 

What I dislike enormously are Hamas, Benjamin Netanyahu and his governemnt as well as Daniela Weiss.

Please bear in mind that Hamas may be Palestinians but not all Palestinians support Hamas.

Please, if it is not too much of an effort, do read the article by Elie Barnabi, an Israeli historian and diplomat who is a former ambassador of Israel to France.  The article was published in the Belgium magazine "Regards".  It is in French but there is an option to read it in English. 
https://cclj.be/la-strategie-du-fou/

You also seem to have selective memory.  You say:  "there is no evidence that Israel plans to expel the Palestinians from the lands they now inhabit.  Really?  Does this ring any bells?  Trump and Netanyahu want to "relocate" Palestinians elsewhere so they can create the Riviera of the Middle East.

Or Daniela Weiss trying to encourage Israelis to settle in the north of Gaza as it has such a beautiful coast..... 

Hamas is beyond despicable but the excuse of Hamas shielding behind civilians is now wearing very thin indeed.  Do you think young children are part of Hamas? Also, it was kind of Israel to move Palestinians from pillar to post.  So why has IDF carried out airstrikes in Palestinian refugee camps in Gaza?

Why have the Israelis not rescued or even attempted to rescue the remaining hostages? The Israelis do have the capacity to do so.

You support the Israeli government?  By all means do so.  But you should not be blind to realities.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.20/07/25 23:19:00 Gerry Boyce
   Reply21/07/25 07:28:00 Sue Hammond
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.21/07/25 15:29:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.21/07/25 19:41:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.21/07/25 21:16:00 Michael Brigo
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.22/07/25 10:21:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.21/07/25 23:33:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.22/07/25 10:31:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.22/07/25 10:38:00 Lucille Grant
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.22/07/25 10:39:00 Lucille Grant
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.22/07/25 12:20:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.22/07/25 12:36:00 Alexander MacLeod
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.22/07/25 13:48:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.22/07/25 13:01:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.22/07/25 13:14:00 Robert Wheeler
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.23/07/25 10:44:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.23/07/25 10:47:00 Gerry Boyce
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.23/07/25 12:58:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.23/07/25 13:38:00 Robert Wheeler
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.23/07/25 14:03:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.23/07/25 22:56:00 Gerry Boyce
      Reply23/07/25 23:07:00 Ivonne Holliday
         Re:Reply24/07/25 08:28:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Reply24/07/25 12:10:00 Richard Carter
               Re:Re:Re:Reply24/07/25 12:20:00 Gerry Boyce
               Re:Re:Re:Reply24/07/25 13:16:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Reply24/07/25 16:48:00 Ivonne Holliday
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.24/07/25 11:56:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.24/07/25 13:22:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.24/07/25 13:33:00 Steven Rose
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.24/07/25 16:06:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.24/07/25 17:31:00 Steven Rose
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.24/07/25 18:33:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.24/07/25 19:50:00 Steven Rose
         Reply24/07/25 20:31:00 Michael Brigo
            Re:Reply24/07/25 21:15:00 Steven Rose
               Reply24/07/25 22:24:00 Michael Brigo
                  Re:Reply25/07/25 14:27:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.24/07/25 22:06:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.24/07/25 23:46:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 14:10:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 13:55:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 12:30:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 13:43:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 14:02:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 14:17:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 14:32:00 Robert Wheeler
               Reply25/07/25 14:47:00 Michael Brigo
                  Re:Reply25/07/25 15:03:00 John Hawkes
                     Re:Re:Reply25/07/25 16:46:00 Michael Brigo
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 15:30:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 16:48:00 Michael Brigo
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 14:11:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 14:41:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 15:25:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 14:59:00 Gerry Boyce
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 15:17:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 15:47:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 16:30:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 16:52:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 14:31:00 John Hawkes
         Reply08/08/26 17:35:00 Ramsay Bolton
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 15:41:00 Ivonne Holliday
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 15:51:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 16:04:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 16:24:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 16:38:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 21:11:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 21:31:00 Gerry Boyce
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 22:17:00 Michael Brigo
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 23:25:00 Steven Rose
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.25/07/25 23:33:00 Ed Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 00:54:00 Steven Rose
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 10:57:00 Ed Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 14:48:00 John Hawkes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 21:15:00 Ed Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 14:44:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 07:27:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 15:22:00 John Hawkes
   Reply26/07/25 10:04:00 Richard Carter
      Re:Reply26/07/25 15:26:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Reply26/07/25 15:39:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 13:21:00 Gerry Boyce
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 13:35:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 13:54:00 Robert Wheeler
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 14:27:00 Michael Brigo
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 15:44:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 18:53:00 Michael Brigo
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 15:28:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 19:04:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 20:24:00 Steven Rose
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 20:52:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 23:09:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.26/07/25 23:48:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 00:38:00 Gerry Boyce
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 01:07:00 Steven Rose
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 10:05:00 Ivonne Holliday
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 11:31:00 Steven Rose
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 12:04:00 Richard Carter
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 14:37:00 Ivonne Holliday
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 12:25:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 12:11:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 13:18:00 Steven Rose
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 15:16:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 13:43:00 Gerry Boyce
   Reply27/07/25 13:45:00 Michael Brigo
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 14:02:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 14:37:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 14:42:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 15:26:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 15:24:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 15:19:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 14:36:00 Richard Carter
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 15:24:00 Gerry Boyce
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 15:38:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 16:18:00 Richard Carter
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 15:32:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 15:59:00 Gerry Boyce
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 16:24:00 Robert Wheeler
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 23:05:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 12:03:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 11:56:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 13:17:00 Gerry Boyce
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 16:04:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 16:33:00 Steven Rose
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 21:42:00 Michael Brigo
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 22:15:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 23:41:00 Gerry Boyce
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 12:14:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.27/07/25 23:18:00 Richard Carter
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 00:02:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 11:09:00 Alexander MacLeod
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 12:24:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 12:12:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 15:28:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 16:21:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 16:47:00 Gerry Boyce
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 17:29:00 Steven Rose
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 17:53:00 Gerry Boyce
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.29/07/25 12:33:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 17:45:00 Ivonne Holliday
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 19:24:00 Steven Rose
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.28/07/25 21:45:00 Gerry Boyce
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.29/07/25 12:51:00 John Hawkes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pope calls for an immediate end to the barbarity in Palestine.08/08/26 19:19:00 Philippa Bond

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