| Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Reply | |
| Posted by: | Jonathan Callaway | |
| Date/Time: | 11/05/26 23:09:00 |
| Re costs of Brexit let me help you: https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/the-telegraph-brexit-disaster-support-400796/ Jeremy Warner, always pro-Brexit in the very pro-Brexit Telegraph, wrote an opinion piece last November bemoaning the economic outcome of Brexit. The London Economic describes his piece in The Telegraph as "inspired by a nine-year study conducted by the National Bureau for Economic Research (NBER). Their data assessed the overall economic impact of Brexit, from the day of the referendum and into this calendar year. The figures were gruesome. As per the NBER, the UK’s GDP (Gross Domestic Product) had fallen by as much as 8% from where it should be since 2016, with the impact ‘accumulating gradually’ as the years have gone by. Investment into the country is also estimated to have dropped sharply, by roughly 12-18%." (the full report is behind a paywall so we only have Warner's piece to go on) Of course, all these are estimates of what might have been. Other estimates are available but there seem to be fewer and fewer people who believe we have gained economically from Brexit. Big business has suffered. Small and medium-sized exporters have suffered even more, especially those in the foodstuffs sector. The full list is very long indeed. On the effect on immigration this is worth a read: https://ukandeu.ac.uk/the-impact-of-brexit-on-immigration-to-the-uk/ On stopping illegal immigration, the end of the Dublin Agreement has made it impossible to automatically return illegal immigrants crossing from the EU. See https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9031/ I think comparing independence, freedom to make our own laws and sovereignty as we see them here to how Ukraine sees it is quite wrong. They actually want to join the EU to preserve their freedoms which their illegal invaders are trying to destroy. I don't see the problem of allowing freedom of movement to, say, the under-30s. What dangers will that entail? The referendum itself was a simple yes/no question, it never asked what sort of exit we wanted and of course many Brexiteers wanted different things. Even Farage talked up a Norway solution and saw no reason why we couldn't leave the EU but remain in the single market. The hard Brexit we got courtesy Johnson was never an option put to the people in that referendum, so allowing some limited return of freedom of movement is hardly going to cause a constitutional crisis at this stage. |
| Topic | Date Posted | Posted By |
| Reform - really not racist ... | 10/05/26 15:58:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Reform - really not racist ... | 10/05/26 16:44:00 | Ivonne Holliday |
| Reply | 10/05/26 17:59:00 | Sue Hammond |
| Re:Reply | 10/05/26 18:23:00 | Robert Wheeler |
| Re:Re:Reply | 10/05/26 18:37:00 | Ivonne Holliday |
| Re:Re:Re:Reply | 10/05/26 19:00:00 | Steven Rose |
| Reply | 10/05/26 20:10:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Reply | 10/05/26 21:11:00 | Sue Hammond |
| Reply | 10/05/26 21:23:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply | 11/05/26 10:19:00 | Ivonne Holliday |
| Reply | 11/05/26 00:38:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Reply | 11/05/26 11:59:00 | John Hawkes |
| Reply | 11/05/26 13:12:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Reply | 11/05/26 16:10:00 | John Hawkes |
| Reply | 11/05/26 10:37:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Reply | 11/05/26 12:14:00 | John Hawkes |
| Re:Reform - really not racist ... | 11/05/26 11:53:00 | John Hawkes |
| Reply | 11/05/26 12:44:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Reply | 11/05/26 13:40:00 | Steven Rose |
| Re:Reply | 11/05/26 16:58:00 | John Hawkes |
| Reply | 11/05/26 19:59:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Reply | 11/05/26 17:57:00 | Sue Hammond |
| Re:Reply | 11/05/26 18:13:00 | Lucille Grant |
| Reply | 11/05/26 20:09:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Reply | 11/05/26 20:30:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Reply | 11/05/26 18:20:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Reply | 11/05/26 19:37:00 | Jonathan Callaway |
| Re:Re:Reply | 11/05/26 21:46:00 | Steven Rose |
| Re:Re:Re:Reply | 11/05/26 23:09:00 | Jonathan Callaway |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply | 12/05/26 07:13:00 | Robert Wheeler |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply | 12/05/26 08:05:00 | Jonathan Callaway |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply | 12/05/26 08:57:00 | Robert Wheeler |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply | 12/05/26 09:31:00 | Ivonne Holliday |
| Reply | 12/05/26 10:01:00 | Martine Guy |
| Re:Reply | 12/05/26 10:53:00 | Ivonne Holliday |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply | 12/05/26 09:34:00 | Steven Rose |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply | 12/05/26 09:48:00 | Ivonne Holliday |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply | 12/05/26 10:44:00 | Steven Rose |