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Posted by: John Hawkes
Date/Time: 27/03/24 16:26:00


Mr Rose

More good points; everyone of them true.

The "over 3 million Britons want all Jewish presence in the Middle East eliminated through mass expulsion and a similar number say that the October atrocity was ‘justified’ " comment is a terrifying one.

Who are these people ?

Most must be Palestinians that somehow have gained a right to reside here.

Though I am not claiming all such take this view; just the majority.

Then there are possibly members of Islamist groups such as the Muslim Association of Britain, Cage and Muslim Engagement and Development (MEND).

And perhaps members of the banned group Al-Muhajiroun whose founders Mohammed Sufiyan Choudry and Omar Bakri Muhammad (who also set up Hizb ut-Tahir), were  convicted of organising terrorist speeches and encouraging support for so-called Islamic State (IS).

Or even followers of Abu Hamza al-Masri, the notorious 'Captain Hook' iman of Finsbury Park Mosque now doing life in the US ?

But to be racially neutral the small number of white fascist 'nutters', members of the BNP and its numerous splinter groups, would probably take the same view.

But I maintain a consoling belief that the typical shopper in Tesco or parent at the school gate or supporter of Chelsea do not hold the views of immigrant Palestinians or their unthinking fellow travellers, now complemented by the Pythonesque 'Energy Embargo for Palestine' group (which I have said before is probably not affiliated to by Saudi Arabia or Iran).

They just want to get on with their lives.

I totally agree with you about the BBC.

'In contrast the BBC to my knowledge have never interviewed a Hamas supporter in Gaza. The people whom their reporters choose for interview always disclaim any knowledge of Hamas and accuse Israel of unprovoked aggression. The impression given is that Israel is filled with warmongers, while Gaza is peopled entirely by innocent civilians'.

Whatever they claim, it is an organisation that would find it difficult in today's political and higher education  environment to hire journalists that have not been imbued with the attitudes you describe.

Thus they apparently hire local journalists in Palestine to report on what they claim to be occurring, some with their Palestinian bias recorded on Twitter.

Not unreasonable under the circumstances I guess for any dispassionate reporter would not only be ignored by Hamas but likely fear for their safety.

And yes, haven't their actions on 7th October 2023 so quickly been forgotten.

Still now Hamas have gained control of Gaza (albeit their true leaders are on the beach in Qatar) I have no doubt they are planning full and free elections - just as in Israel.

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Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London16/03/24 15:22:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London16/03/24 16:50:00 Michael Brigo
      Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London16/03/24 22:29:00 Ed Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London17/03/24 12:17:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London18/03/24 15:30:00 Lucille Grant
      Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London17/03/24 12:14:00 John Hawkes
   Reply17/03/24 12:27:00 Michael Ixer
      Re:Reply17/03/24 12:41:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Reply17/03/24 16:41:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Reply17/03/24 16:31:00 John Hawkes
         Reply17/03/24 19:01:00 Michael Ixer
            Re:Reply17/03/24 19:39:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Reply18/03/24 15:33:00 Lucille Grant
            Re:Reply18/03/24 15:47:00 John Hawkes
               Reply19/03/24 11:41:00 Michael Ixer
                  Re:Reply19/03/24 11:57:00 John Hawkes
                     Re:Re:Reply24/03/24 20:33:00 Richard Carter
                        Re:Re:Re:Reply24/03/24 20:51:00 Ivonne Holliday
                        Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 10:52:00 John Hawkes
                     Re:Re:Reply24/03/24 20:50:00 Ivonne Holliday
                        Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 00:14:00 Steven Rose
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 10:50:00 Ivonne Holliday
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 14:09:00 Steven Rose
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 14:48:00 Steven Rose
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 15:13:00 John Hawkes
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 15:36:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 16:39:00 Robert Wheeler
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 16:39:00 Steven Rose
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 18:36:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/03/24 11:57:00 John Hawkes
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/03/24 14:21:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply27/03/24 11:00:00 John Hawkes
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 17:09:00 John Hawkes
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 17:57:00 Lucille Grant
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 19:23:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/03/24 12:08:00 John Hawkes
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 19:22:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 21:41:00 Philippa Bond
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/03/24 13:04:00 John Hawkes
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/03/24 14:30:00 Philippa Bond
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/03/24 14:31:00 Philippa Bond
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/03/24 20:53:00 Steven Rose
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply27/03/24 16:26:00 John Hawkes
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply27/03/24 18:50:00 Jane Carter
                                                            Reply27/03/24 20:29:00 Michael Ixer
                                                               Re:Reply27/03/24 21:22:00 John Hawkes
                                                                  Reply27/03/24 21:40:00 Michael Ixer
                                                                     Re:Reply27/03/24 21:48:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                     Re:Reply27/03/24 21:49:00 Robert Wheeler
                                                                        Reply27/03/24 23:28:00 Michael Ixer
   Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London26/03/24 21:40:00 Steven Rose
      Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London27/03/24 19:00:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London27/03/24 22:51:00 Steven Rose
            Reply27/03/24 23:41:00 Michael Ixer
         Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 09:20:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 12:51:00 Steven Rose
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 13:13:00 Ivonne Holliday
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 14:08:00 Steven Rose
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 17:38:00 Ivonne Holliday
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 16:09:00 John Hawkes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 16:40:00 Richard Carter
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 16:58:00 John Hawkes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 19:50:00 Steven Rose
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 21:28:00 John Hawkes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London31/03/24 18:03:00 Philippa Bond

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