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Posted by: Steven Rose
Date/Time: 25/03/24 00:14:00

Hamas is all but defeated militarily. Their last hope is that peace campaigners in the West will put pressure on their governments to compel Israel to call a unilateral ceasefire. Unfortunately such a ceasefire would simply leave Hamas in possession of the hostages, whom they can use as bargaining chips, and in control of parts of Gaza where they hope to regroup and renew their attacks.

Peace campaigners, motivated by sympathy for the civilian population, naturally take offence at any suggestion that they are antisemitic or apologists for Hamas. Some of this indignation has been expressed on the Forum. But in effect, however much they may dislike the implication, these campaigners are furthering Hamas’ cause for the reason given above. Their presence also gives respectability to the groups organising the demonstrations, some of whom make no secret of the fact that they regard the whole of Israel as ‘under occupation ‘, proved by the chants of ‘from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free’.

The immediate solution is for Hamas to lay down their arms and release the hostages and for Israel to suspend its military campaign. Regrettably the demonstrators only demand the latter, but never the former. Some contributors to the Forum have tried to justify this one-sided approach by arguing, in effect, that there is no point in appealing to Hamas because they  are just a bunch of terrorists while Israel is a democratic country. In my view this approach simply favours Hamas.

I have got two questions. Is Israel supposed to tolerate on its border an army of over 20 000 militants who not only perpetrated a dreadful massacre but have threatened to repeat it ‘again and again’? And if not, how is Israel to remove this threat?


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      Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London17/03/24 12:14:00 John Hawkes
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      Re:Reply17/03/24 12:41:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Reply17/03/24 16:41:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Reply17/03/24 16:31:00 John Hawkes
         Reply17/03/24 19:01:00 Michael Ixer
            Re:Reply17/03/24 19:39:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Reply18/03/24 15:33:00 Lucille Grant
            Re:Reply18/03/24 15:47:00 John Hawkes
               Reply19/03/24 11:41:00 Michael Ixer
                  Re:Reply19/03/24 11:57:00 John Hawkes
                     Re:Re:Reply24/03/24 20:33:00 Richard Carter
                        Re:Re:Re:Reply24/03/24 20:51:00 Ivonne Holliday
                        Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 10:52:00 John Hawkes
                     Re:Re:Reply24/03/24 20:50:00 Ivonne Holliday
                        Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 00:14:00 Steven Rose
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 10:50:00 Ivonne Holliday
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 14:09:00 Steven Rose
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 14:48:00 Steven Rose
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 15:13:00 John Hawkes
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 15:36:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 16:39:00 Robert Wheeler
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 16:39:00 Steven Rose
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 18:36:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/03/24 11:57:00 John Hawkes
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/03/24 14:21:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply27/03/24 11:00:00 John Hawkes
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 17:09:00 John Hawkes
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 17:57:00 Lucille Grant
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 19:23:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/03/24 12:08:00 John Hawkes
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 19:22:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 21:41:00 Philippa Bond
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/03/24 13:04:00 John Hawkes
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/03/24 14:30:00 Philippa Bond
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/03/24 14:31:00 Philippa Bond
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/03/24 20:53:00 Steven Rose
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply27/03/24 16:26:00 John Hawkes
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply27/03/24 18:50:00 Jane Carter
                                                            Reply27/03/24 20:29:00 Michael Ixer
                                                               Re:Reply27/03/24 21:22:00 John Hawkes
                                                                  Reply27/03/24 21:40:00 Michael Ixer
                                                                     Re:Reply27/03/24 21:48:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                     Re:Reply27/03/24 21:49:00 Robert Wheeler
                                                                        Reply27/03/24 23:28:00 Michael Ixer
   Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London26/03/24 21:40:00 Steven Rose
      Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London27/03/24 19:00:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London27/03/24 22:51:00 Steven Rose
            Reply27/03/24 23:41:00 Michael Ixer
         Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 09:20:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 12:51:00 Steven Rose
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 13:13:00 Ivonne Holliday
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 14:08:00 Steven Rose
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 17:38:00 Ivonne Holliday
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 16:09:00 John Hawkes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 16:40:00 Richard Carter
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 16:58:00 John Hawkes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 19:50:00 Steven Rose
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 21:28:00 John Hawkes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London31/03/24 18:03:00 Philippa Bond

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