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Posted by: Ivonne Holliday
Date/Time: 25/03/24 10:50:00

I disagree with you too, Steven Rose.

It is a concept very difficult for you to grasp but it is very possible to despise Hamas and disaprove of Israel's actions at the same time.  The flattening of parts of Gaza is not acceptable.  It was equally unacceptable when the Syrian government did this to its own people with the assistance of Russia.

Hamas were as pesky as mosquitoes and midges in summer when shooting rockets into Israel.  I never understood why Israel did not reply to them then.

Your question:  "Is Israel supposed to tolerate on its border an army of over 20 000 militants who not only perpetrated a dreadful massacre but have threatened to repeat it ‘again and again’? And if not, how is Israel to remove this threat?" 

For starters, Israel has an enourmous and very well trained military.  I Googled it and here is an article from The Independent which states that Israel has 173,000 active soldiers including 8,000 commanders plus 300,000 reservists called up to fight Hamas.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/idf-israel-military-power-iron-dome-b2437545.html

Israel admitted that, on 7 October 2023, it had let its guard down.

Of course Israel must defend itself, something that it can do very well indeed and it has all the military and intelligence backup to do so very effectively indeed.

But many people like you forget there are civilians in Gaza that have nothing to do with Hamas.  The population of Gaza City alone is 590,481 of which some 15,000 to 40,000 are in Hamas.  Quite a difference, would you not say?

To conclude, it is very difficult to fight extremists and/or terrorists wherever you are in the world.  The IRA must have taught you this much.

I very much doubt you would have agreed the British Army to flatten NI to erradicate the IRA.  Or would you?


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                     Re:Re:Reply24/03/24 20:50:00 Ivonne Holliday
                        Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 00:14:00 Steven Rose
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 10:50:00 Ivonne Holliday
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 14:09:00 Steven Rose
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                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/03/24 18:36:00 Ivonne Holliday
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   Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London26/03/24 21:40:00 Steven Rose
      Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London27/03/24 19:00:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London27/03/24 22:51:00 Steven Rose
            Reply27/03/24 23:41:00 Michael Ixer
         Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 09:20:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 12:51:00 Steven Rose
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 13:13:00 Ivonne Holliday
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 14:08:00 Steven Rose
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 17:38:00 Ivonne Holliday
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cost of policing pro-Palestine marches in London28/03/24 16:09:00 John Hawkes
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