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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens
Posted by: Adam Gray
Date/Time: 04/12/15 21:00:00

John, I'm assuming that there are a range of "environmental" officers (there were in H&F) and that the one they invited to express a view was a specialist in that aspect of the environment.

I don't think a planning officer is informed enough to disregard an expert's opinion even though it happens all the time (and it's not the only example: with any controlled parking zone that's introduced the police are invited to comment on safety. Without fail they recommend that parking bays stop a lot further from the junction of the road than the council ever decides to. The police - who you may or may not regard as experts in road safety - take a view that there need to be larger amounts of unhindered visual space before reaching a junction. Council transport planners disregard that advice because that would remove too many parking spaces and reduce income).

But I guess anything is harmless until it causes harm. There's no evidence these particular signs are dangerous until there's an RTA, and that RTA is specifically linked to the signs. Of course we hope that never happens. Nonetheless, as others have discussed advertisements are designed to be eye-catching.

Back-lit illuminated advertisements are designed to be more eye-catching than billboard adverts.

Adverts that change and are, perhaps, animated are more eye-catching than static backlit adverts.

We really aren't all that far, technological capacity-wise from the sort of "Minority Report" personalised advertising that can work out who you are from your number plate or smartphone and you get a targeted ad.

My point being not to scaremonger but to make the case that the industry, entirely understandably, is continually pushing the limits of distraction to maximise the return for their clients (and therefore themselves). How bright an image is, how distracting it is, how interested the person it's aimed at is are all factors in road safety - and we all have different tolerance. I wouldn't necessarily assume that regulation keeps up with these factors given the rapidity with which technology is advancing.

That said, I think the visual impact and the environment we want for Roehampton is a far bigger problem than the safety issue - at least, as I say above, until it becomes unsafe.


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Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens15/11/15 17:35:00 Amanda Benzecry
   Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens15/11/15 18:59:00 Alex Greenbank
      Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens15/11/15 19:25:00 Amanda Benzecry
         Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens17/11/15 13:50:00 Adam Gray
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens18/11/15 09:26:00 Amanda Benzecry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens18/11/15 11:34:00 Adrian Pearce
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens18/11/15 12:12:00 Amanda Benzecry
                     CARPA - Campaign Against Rosslyn Park Advertising 19/11/15 23:00:00 Amanda Benzecry
                        Re:CARPA - Campaign Against Rosslyn Park Advertising 20/11/15 12:56:00 Vic Condon
                           Re:Re:CARPA - Campaign Against Rosslyn Park Advertising 20/11/15 15:11:00 Amanda Benzecry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 22:35:00 Dee Fishwick
   Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens21/11/15 10:22:00 Amanda Benzecry
      Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens21/11/15 11:01:00 Ivonne Holliday
         Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens21/11/15 23:02:00 Amanda Benzecry
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens22/11/15 22:25:00 Amanda Benzecry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens24/11/15 11:17:00 Amanda Benzecry
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens24/11/15 13:49:00 Adam Gray
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens24/11/15 18:46:00 Amanda Benzecry
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens26/11/15 15:59:00 Amanda Benzecry
                           CARPA on line petition26/11/15 22:58:00 Amanda Benzecry
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 22:45:00 Dee Fishwick
   Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 10:57:00 Nick Gulliford
      Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 11:21:00 Paul Bryant
         Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 11:41:00 George Perry
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 11:47:00 Nick Gulliford
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 21:47:00 Adam Gray
         Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 11:52:00 Amanda Benzecry
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 13:05:00 Niccie Willis
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 13:37:00 Matt Palmer
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 21:05:00 Adam Gray
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 21:51:00 Matt Palmer
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 22:11:00 Matt Palmer
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens29/11/15 21:23:00 Adam Gray
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens29/11/15 21:22:00 Adam Gray
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens29/11/15 22:08:00 Barbara Stevens
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 13:59:00 Adam Gray
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 14:48:00 Barbara Stevens
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 14:55:00 Jonty Nicholls
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens30/11/15 09:50:00 Matt Palmer
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 20:48:00 Ivonne Holliday
   Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens28/11/15 19:20:00 Steve Fannon
   Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens29/11/15 19:11:00 Barbara Stevens
      Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens30/11/15 22:20:00 Alexander MacLeod
         Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/12/15 17:56:00 Jane Carter
      Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/12/15 09:33:00 Vic Condon
         Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/12/15 15:15:00 Barbara Stevens
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/12/15 15:42:00 Vic Condon
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/12/15 16:45:00 Adam Gray
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/12/15 17:21:00 Jonty Nicholls
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/12/15 22:59:00 Barbara Stevens
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/12/15 23:21:00 Barbara Stevens
                     Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 09:13:00 Steve Poole
                        Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 09:40:00 Alexander MacLeod
                           Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 09:48:00 Alex Greenbank
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 10:58:00 Alexander MacLeod
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 11:13:00 John Gorst
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 14:06:00 Adam Gray
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 14:58:00 John Gorst
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 21:00:00 Adam Gray
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 11:07:00 Barbara Stevens
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 14:07:00 Adam Gray
                           Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 09:55:00 Vic Condon
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 10:15:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 18:24:00 Matt Palmer
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 19:29:00 Emma Rose
      Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 19:33:00 Emma Rose
         Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 20:24:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 10:36:00 Alexander MacLeod
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 11:18:00 Alex Greenbank
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 15:53:00 Simon Knight
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 16:08:00 Alexander MacLeod
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 18:17:00 Emma Rose
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 19:17:00 Ivonne Holliday
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 19:33:00 Jonty Nicholls
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 20:28:00 Simon Knight
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 21:52:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 22:45:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 10:16:00 Barbara Stevens
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 17:15:00 Simon Knight
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 20:46:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 22:05:00 Alexander MacLeod
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 20:29:00 Barbara Stevens
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 10:09:00 Clifford Cowell
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 20:33:00 Ivonne Holliday
   Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 22:25:00 Dee Fishwick
      Re:Re:Absolute rubbish04/12/15 22:56:00 Jonty Nicholls
         Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish04/12/15 23:41:00 Barbara Stevens
         Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish04/12/15 23:44:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish05/12/15 09:56:00 Jonty Nicholls
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish05/12/15 10:19:00 Alexander MacLeod
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish05/12/15 11:29:00 Jonty Nicholls
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish07/01/16 23:26:00 James Page
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish05/12/15 10:21:00 Vic Condon
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish05/12/15 11:24:00 Alexander MacLeod
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish08/01/16 09:59:00 Stephen Walker
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish08/01/16 10:10:00 Ivonne Holliday
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish08/01/16 16:39:00 Barbara Stevens
         Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish12/01/16 22:00:00 Doug Kessler
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish13/01/16 12:15:00 Barbara Stevens
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish14/01/16 11:35:00 Alexander MacLeod
            Absolute rubbish by Doug Kessler15/01/16 20:45:00 Jonty Nicholls
   Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/02/16 13:29:00 David McConnon
      Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/02/16 13:47:00 Matt Palmer
      Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/02/16 23:43:00 emma rose
   Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens05/02/16 17:56:00 Steve Fannon

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