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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens
Posted by: Jonty Nicholls
Date/Time: 03/12/15 19:33:00

I enjoyed watching the Pathe news footage of the lido, but wouldn't describe it as being particularly "pastoral".

On a more serious note, this campaign's credibility will suffer immensely if it bases its case on irrelevant, spurious or specious arguments. There are illuminated advertising signs all over the country, including many using this type of technology (I don't have much time for advertising - it seems to be mainly about conning people into paying over the odds for stuff they don't actually need, and often can't really afford). But they are not dangerous.

The criticism being levelled at the approach to safety is flawed: "does that mean someone has to be killed before something is done about it.....etc etc" - this is one of the best approaches which can be taken - an evidence-based approach. Firstly you rule out things which are obviously dangerous - cars without brakes, 100mph drivers and the like. For factors which can be argued either way (yes they are dangerous, oh not their not), the approach usually taken is to gather statistics as to whether they are really dangerous - have they actually caused any accidents or worsened the effects of accidents. This approach led to the introduction of many sensible safety procedures such as seat belts, child seats and more recently, extra guards and mirrors on HGV lorries. Illuminated advertising signs have not been recognised as causing an increasing number of accidents - because they don't. It might be your opinion that they do - but where is the data?

Carpa's website doesn't mention safety as a concern and it would be a mistake if it did.


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Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens15/11/15 17:35:00 Amanda Benzecry
   Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens15/11/15 18:59:00 Alex Greenbank
      Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens15/11/15 19:25:00 Amanda Benzecry
         Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens17/11/15 13:50:00 Adam Gray
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens18/11/15 09:26:00 Amanda Benzecry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens18/11/15 11:34:00 Adrian Pearce
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens18/11/15 12:12:00 Amanda Benzecry
                     CARPA - Campaign Against Rosslyn Park Advertising 19/11/15 23:00:00 Amanda Benzecry
                        Re:CARPA - Campaign Against Rosslyn Park Advertising 20/11/15 12:56:00 Vic Condon
                           Re:Re:CARPA - Campaign Against Rosslyn Park Advertising 20/11/15 15:11:00 Amanda Benzecry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 22:35:00 Dee Fishwick
   Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens21/11/15 10:22:00 Amanda Benzecry
      Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens21/11/15 11:01:00 Ivonne Holliday
         Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens21/11/15 23:02:00 Amanda Benzecry
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens22/11/15 22:25:00 Amanda Benzecry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens24/11/15 11:17:00 Amanda Benzecry
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens24/11/15 13:49:00 Adam Gray
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens24/11/15 18:46:00 Amanda Benzecry
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens26/11/15 15:59:00 Amanda Benzecry
                           CARPA on line petition26/11/15 22:58:00 Amanda Benzecry
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 22:45:00 Dee Fishwick
   Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 10:57:00 Nick Gulliford
      Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 11:21:00 Paul Bryant
         Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 11:41:00 George Perry
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 11:47:00 Nick Gulliford
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 21:47:00 Adam Gray
         Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 11:52:00 Amanda Benzecry
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 13:05:00 Niccie Willis
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 13:37:00 Matt Palmer
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 21:05:00 Adam Gray
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 21:51:00 Matt Palmer
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 22:11:00 Matt Palmer
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens29/11/15 21:23:00 Adam Gray
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens29/11/15 21:22:00 Adam Gray
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens29/11/15 22:08:00 Barbara Stevens
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 13:59:00 Adam Gray
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 14:48:00 Barbara Stevens
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 14:55:00 Jonty Nicholls
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens30/11/15 09:50:00 Matt Palmer
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens27/11/15 20:48:00 Ivonne Holliday
   Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens28/11/15 19:20:00 Steve Fannon
   Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens29/11/15 19:11:00 Barbara Stevens
      Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens30/11/15 22:20:00 Alexander MacLeod
         Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/12/15 17:56:00 Jane Carter
      Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/12/15 09:33:00 Vic Condon
         Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/12/15 15:15:00 Barbara Stevens
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/12/15 15:42:00 Vic Condon
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/12/15 16:45:00 Adam Gray
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/12/15 17:21:00 Jonty Nicholls
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/12/15 22:59:00 Barbara Stevens
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/12/15 23:21:00 Barbara Stevens
                     Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 09:13:00 Steve Poole
                        Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 09:40:00 Alexander MacLeod
                           Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 09:48:00 Alex Greenbank
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 10:58:00 Alexander MacLeod
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 11:13:00 John Gorst
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 14:06:00 Adam Gray
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 14:58:00 John Gorst
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 21:00:00 Adam Gray
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 11:07:00 Barbara Stevens
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 14:07:00 Adam Gray
                           Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 09:55:00 Vic Condon
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 10:15:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 18:24:00 Matt Palmer
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 19:29:00 Emma Rose
      Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 19:33:00 Emma Rose
         Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens02/12/15 20:24:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 10:36:00 Alexander MacLeod
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 11:18:00 Alex Greenbank
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 15:53:00 Simon Knight
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 16:08:00 Alexander MacLeod
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 18:17:00 Emma Rose
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 19:17:00 Ivonne Holliday
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 19:33:00 Jonty Nicholls
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 20:28:00 Simon Knight
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 21:52:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 22:45:00 Jonty Nicholls
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 10:16:00 Barbara Stevens
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 17:15:00 Simon Knight
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 20:46:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 22:05:00 Alexander MacLeod
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens03/12/15 20:29:00 Barbara Stevens
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 10:09:00 Clifford Cowell
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 20:33:00 Ivonne Holliday
   Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/12/15 22:25:00 Dee Fishwick
      Re:Re:Absolute rubbish04/12/15 22:56:00 Jonty Nicholls
         Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish04/12/15 23:41:00 Barbara Stevens
         Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish04/12/15 23:44:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish05/12/15 09:56:00 Jonty Nicholls
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish05/12/15 10:19:00 Alexander MacLeod
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish05/12/15 11:29:00 Jonty Nicholls
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish07/01/16 23:26:00 James Page
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish05/12/15 10:21:00 Vic Condon
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish05/12/15 11:24:00 Alexander MacLeod
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish08/01/16 09:59:00 Stephen Walker
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish08/01/16 10:10:00 Ivonne Holliday
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish08/01/16 16:39:00 Barbara Stevens
         Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish12/01/16 22:00:00 Doug Kessler
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish13/01/16 12:15:00 Barbara Stevens
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Absolute rubbish14/01/16 11:35:00 Alexander MacLeod
            Absolute rubbish by Doug Kessler15/01/16 20:45:00 Jonty Nicholls
   Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/02/16 13:29:00 David McConnon
      Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens01/02/16 13:47:00 Matt Palmer
      Re:Re:Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens04/02/16 23:43:00 emma rose
   Campaign to remove Rosslyn Park advertising screens05/02/16 17:56:00 Steve Fannon

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