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Topic: Re:Re:Nonsense on stilts
Posted by: Steven Rose
Date/Time: 26/10/26 21:30:00

Picking my way through the vituperative verbiage of your post, I note, Richard, that you don't actually deal with the point that Burnham lied to the voters of Makerfield in order to become Prime Minister. 

You argue that no one expects a referendum result to be respected in perpetuity. In perpetuity, no, but certainly for a generation. What cannot be tolerated is a situation where those who are unhappy with the result of a referendum demand another within a short time. Am I not right in thinking that you were among those calling for a second referendum even before the Withdrawal Agreement was signed, that is within three years of the original decision? The danger of this is that it destroys faith in the democratic process. People will ask themselves whether it's worth going to vote when their vote can be cancelled by a second or third referendum or however many are needed until the public gets the right answer. You don't have to take my word on this. You only have to listen to Burnham himself, who told the voters of Makerfield that failing to respect the Referendum would undermine democracy.

Yes, Norway and Switzerland (to a certain extent) are members of the single market. This means that they must conform to EU rules without having the power to change them. Is that a sensible option for this country? I don't think so. On that basis a second referendum would be a sham.   

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Betrayal25/10/26 10:11:00 Steven Rose
   Re:Betrayal25/10/26 10:57:00 Robert Wheeler
      Re:Re:Betrayal25/10/26 12:51:00 Ivonne Holliday
         Re:Re:Re:Betrayal25/10/26 13:17:00 Robert Wheeler
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Betrayal25/10/26 13:34:00 Ivonne Holliday
      Re:Re:Betrayal25/10/26 14:48:00 Richard Carter
         Re:Re:Re:Betrayal26/10/26 12:59:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Betrayal25/10/26 14:54:00 Richard Carter
      Re:Re:Betrayal25/10/26 15:25:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Re:Betrayal25/10/26 15:59:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Betrayal25/10/26 16:28:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Betrayal26/10/26 13:17:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Betrayal25/10/26 16:21:00 Jonathan Callaway
      Re:Re:Betrayal25/10/26 16:59:00 Steven Rose
         ry getting a grip...26/10/26 11:12:00 Richard Carter
   Reply25/10/26 18:10:00 Michael Ixer
      Re:Reply25/10/26 20:18:00 Robert Wheeler
         Re:Re:Reply25/10/26 20:52:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Re:Re:Reply26/10/26 13:34:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Reply25/10/26 20:53:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Re:Reply25/10/26 21:42:00 Ivonne Holliday
         Re:Re:Reply25/10/26 20:57:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Reply26/10/26 13:37:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Reply25/10/26 21:01:00 Michael Ixer
            Re:Re:Re:Reply26/10/26 13:41:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Reply25/10/26 20:50:00 Ivonne Holliday
         Re:Re:Reply25/10/26 21:41:00 Steven Rose
            Reply25/10/26 21:55:00 Michael Ixer
               Re:Reply26/10/26 08:21:00 Richard Carter
               Re:Betrayal 26/10/26 08:21:00 Sue Hammond
                  Reply26/10/26 11:51:00 Michael Ixer
                     Reply26/10/26 12:16:00 Sue Hammond
                        Reply26/10/26 13:30:00 Michael Ixer
                        Re:Reply26/10/26 13:58:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Reply26/10/26 08:21:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:Reply26/10/26 13:54:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Reply26/10/26 13:21:00 John Hawkes
   Reply26/10/26 11:59:00 Michael Ixer
      Re:Reply26/10/26 18:38:00 Steven Rose
         Nonsense on stilts26/10/26 19:14:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Nonsense on stilts26/10/26 19:25:00 Philippa Bond
               Reply26/10/26 21:29:00 Sue Hammond
                  Re:Reply26/10/26 22:10:00 Philippa Bond
                  Reply26/10/26 23:31:00 Michael Ixer
               Re:Re:Nonsense on stilts26/10/26 21:30:00 Steven Rose

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