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Topic: Re:We have met the enemy and he is us
Posted by: Steven Rose
Date/Time: 25/02/26 22:44:00

This thread is actually about left wing parties which feign commitment to high ideals (such as equality, fighting poverty etc) but in practice undermine them through ill-considered policies. The cynical attempt by the Greens to gather the Muslim votes by supporting the right of Palestinians to statehood while denying the right of Jews to a homeland is perhaps the worst example. A history lesson about the Balfour Declaration in 1917 is  both tendentious and irrelevant. It is tendentious because it omits the obvious fact that Jews have lived in what is now Israel and the West Bank for over two thousand years, since long before the area was conquered by the Arabs. It is irrelevant because it ignores the practicalities of the current situation. In the twentieth century many peoples were displaced or compelled to live under foreign rulers. Poles were expelled from Ukraine. Sudeten Germans found themselves living in Czechoslovakia, Italians were expelled from Istria, 800 000 Jews were forced to leave their homes in North Africa and the Middle East. It is pointless to try to turn the clock back. The greatest obstacle to Palestinian statehood is the Palestinian people. A gruesome band of fanatics has taken over Gaza with the stated aim of exterminating the Jewish population of Israel. The Palestinian Authority on the West Bank, having twice refused a deal with Israel, now say that they accept Israek's right to exist (which is more than you do!) but most Israelis don't believe them. Their scepticism is not hard to understand given the popularity of Hamas on the West Bank.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Performative government21/02/26 01:40:00 Steven Rose
   Re:Performative government21/02/26 11:44:00 David Ainsworth
      Re:Re:Performative government21/02/26 14:54:00 Sue Hammond
         Re:Re:Re:Performative government21/02/26 17:53:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Performative government21/02/26 20:33:00 David Ainsworth
   Re:Performative government21/02/26 17:39:00 Michael Brigo
      Re:Re:Performative government21/02/26 19:30:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Re:Performative government21/02/26 23:59:00 Michael Brigo
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Performative government22/02/26 00:37:00 Steven Rose
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Performative government22/02/26 09:29:00 David Ainsworth
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Performative government22/02/26 10:30:00 Steven Rose
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Performative government22/02/26 17:12:00 Michael Brigo
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Performative government23/02/26 17:01:00 John Hawkes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Performative government23/02/26 17:17:00 Michael Brigo
   Reply23/02/26 18:30:00 Richard Carter
      Re:Reply23/02/26 19:49:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Reply23/02/26 20:27:00 Michael Brigo
            Re:Re:Re:Reply23/02/26 21:48:00 Steven Rose
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/02/26 00:00:00 Michael Brigo
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/02/26 01:04:00 David Ainsworth
      Farage can't even manage to be an illegal immigrant properly23/02/26 20:01:00 David Ainsworth
   Re:Performative government23/02/26 23:50:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:  China turns Deserts into Carbon Sink by Planting Billions of Trees23/02/26 23:56:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:  China turns Deserts into Carbon Sink by Planting Billions of Trees24/02/26 01:34:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Re:  China turns Deserts into Carbon Sink by Planting Billions of Trees24/02/26 09:10:00 David Ainsworth
            Re:Re:Re:  China turns Deserts into Carbon Sink by Planting Billions of Trees24/02/26 13:52:00 Michael Brigo
               Re:Re:Re:Re:  China turns Deserts into Carbon Sink by Planting Billions of Trees24/02/26 14:01:00 John Hawkes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  China turns Deserts into Carbon Sink by Planting Billions of Trees24/02/26 16:51:00 Steven Rose
                     Re:  Better Insulation & Ventilation of our homes to use LESS ENERGY would reduce our energy costs  ENEG24/02/26 17:05:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  China turns Deserts into Carbon Sink by Planting Billions of Trees24/02/26 17:52:00 Michael Brigo
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  China turns Deserts into Carbon Sink by Planting Billions of Trees24/02/26 20:17:00 Steven Rose
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  China turns Deserts into Carbon Sink by Planting Billions of Trees24/02/26 21:18:00 Steven Rose
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  China turns Deserts into Carbon Sink by Planting Billions of Trees24/02/26 23:54:00 David Ainsworth
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  China turns Deserts into Carbon Sink by Planting Billions of Trees25/02/26 00:06:00 David Ainsworth
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  China turns Deserts into Carbon Sink by Planting Billions of Trees25/02/26 15:20:00 John Hawkes
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  China turns Deserts into Carbon Sink by Planting Billions of Trees25/02/26 15:19:00 John Hawkes
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:  China turns Deserts into Carbon Sink by Planting Billions of Trees25/02/26 20:17:00 Steven Rose
                                       We have met the enemy and he is us25/02/26 21:14:00 David Ainsworth
                                          Re:We have met the enemy and he is us25/02/26 22:44:00 Steven Rose
                                             Re:Re:We have met the enemy and he is us25/02/26 23:59:00 David Ainsworth
                                                Re:Re:Re:We have met the enemy and he is us26/02/26 00:51:00 Steven Rose

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