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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?
Posted by: Michael Ixer
Date/Time: 15/02/19 12:37:00

Unfortunately the Times article is behind a paywall so it's not possible to read far enough to check what evidence they had to substatiate this. However, given she was married at 15, she's now pregnant and the IS healthcare would not be good enough to provide contraception and adequate maternity care it seems highly plausible she's had two children already who have died.

What is of concern is that my understanding, from an Iraqi acquaintance,  was that in the 1980s healthcare in the Middle East was quite reasonable and improving. It seems to be western intervention (Iraqi wars, suport for Arab spring, etc),  without thought for the consequences or follow up, has caused things to degenerate.

Be wary of poorly planned, radical change, the veneer of civilisation is very thin ...


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Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 12:16:00 Sue Hammond
   Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 12:27:00 Matt Palmer
      Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 13:05:00 Lucille Grant
   Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 13:54:00 Michael Ixer
      Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 14:34:00 David Ainsworth
         Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 14:53:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 15:11:00 Emarisa Battoia
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 15:29:00 Lucille Grant
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 15:40:00 Emarisa Battoia
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 18:11:00 Barbara Stevens
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 18:12:00 Barbara Stevens
      Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 16:23:00 Sue Hammond
         Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 16:38:00 Matt Palmer
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 16:39:00 Sue Hammond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 16:51:00 Sue Hammond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 17:48:00 Matt Palmer
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 18:18:00 Michael Ixer
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 20:36:00 Sue Hammond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 22:16:00 Alexander MacLeod
   Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 14:28:00 Hugh Thompson
      Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 15:13:00 Andy Pike
         Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 15:55:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 16:18:00 Andy Pike
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 18:17:00 Barbara Stevens
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 06:46:00 Hugh Thompson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 09:42:00 David Ainsworth
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 10:55:00 Barbara Shillabeer
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 11:03:00 Caroline Whitehead
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 11:09:00 Sue Hammond
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 11:17:00 Lucille Grant
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 12:37:00 Michael Ixer
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 13:02:00 Craig Fordham
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 15:59:00 Barbara Stevens
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 20:44:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?16/02/19 08:28:00 Richard Carter
   Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?16/02/19 14:13:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?16/02/19 18:31:00 Barbara Shillabeer
         Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?16/02/19 18:34:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?16/02/19 19:11:00 Michael Ixer
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 10:58:00 Sue Hammond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 11:28:00 Lucille Grant
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 12:16:00 Barbara Shillabeer
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 12:30:00 David Ainsworth
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 16:47:00 Sue Hammond
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 16:55:00 Lucille Grant
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 20:41:00 Caroline Whitehead
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 21:31:00 Lucille Grant
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 23:05:00 Sue Hammond
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 23:17:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 23:55:00 Sue Hammond
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 00:00:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 08:03:00 Sue Hammond
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 08:39:00 Lucille Grant
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 08:37:00 Lucille Grant
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 08:40:00 Craig Fordham
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 09:29:00 Lucille Grant
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 09:33:00 Richard Carter
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 10:22:00 John Hawkes
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 10:22:00 Michael Ixer
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 10:36:00 Fraser Pearce
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 11:36:00 Sue Hammond
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 12:18:00 Lucille Grant
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 13:10:00 Fraser Pearce
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 13:43:00 Sue Hammond
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 13:58:00 Lucille Grant
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 14:24:00 Richard Carter
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 13:19:00 Michael Ixer
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 15:43:00 Ivonne Holliday
   Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 22:18:00 Barbara Shillabeer
      Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 23:02:00 David Ainsworth
         Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 07:50:00 Mike Warman
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 09:16:00 Sue Hammond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 11:59:00 David Ainsworth
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 12:43:00 Caroline Whitehead
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 12:56:00 Richard Carter
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 13:13:00 Caroline Whitehead
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 18:01:00 Jonathan Callaway
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 18:52:00 Michael Ixer
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 18:57:00 Sue Hammond
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 20:08:00 Mike Warman
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 20:19:00 Sue Hammond
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 20:40:00 Mike Warman
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 21:21:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 21:39:00 Mike Warman
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 22:46:00 Michael Ixer
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 23:20:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 23:58:00 David Ainsworth
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 00:03:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 00:04:00 Mike Warman
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 17:39:00 John Hawkes
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 18:52:00 Michael Ixer
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 20:22:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 21:13:00 Michael Ixer
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 22:03:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 22:31:00 Michael Ixer
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 22:35:00 Ivonne Holliday

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