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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?
Posted by: Michael Ixer
Date/Time: 14/02/19 18:18:00

@Sue. As Matt points out UN charters are negotiated and entered into by the UK freely as a sovereign state, as with ECHR. (Nothing to do with the EU except these days I think a prerequisite of EU membership is being a signatory of the ECHR.)

I have no sympathy for this individual as she made her decision and seems not to regret it in any way. As an atheist I have no time for extreme religions that promote intolerance, hate or violence whether they be Christian, Islamic, Jewish, Hindu, etc. I'm just noting facts.

I don't think there's anyway the UK government is going to spend effort or money repatriating this individual so if she has any hope it will be down to family and friends - or a newspaper?

In practice if she does make it out of the refugee camp she may not be able to travel freely because even if she hasn't lost or destroyed her passport the UK can withdraw travel documentation, even for a British citizen - I'm not sure of the details but I assume she would have to surrender herself to a UK embassy to get special restricted documents to travel?

My understanding is as she's been associated with a terrorist organisation she would be detained for questioning on returning to the UK, and any child she gave birth to would most probably be made a ward of court.


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Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 12:16:00 Sue Hammond
   Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 12:27:00 Matt Palmer
      Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 13:05:00 Lucille Grant
   Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 13:54:00 Michael Ixer
      Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 14:34:00 David Ainsworth
         Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 14:53:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 15:11:00 Emarisa Battoia
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 15:29:00 Lucille Grant
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 15:40:00 Emarisa Battoia
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 18:11:00 Barbara Stevens
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 18:12:00 Barbara Stevens
      Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 16:23:00 Sue Hammond
         Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 16:38:00 Matt Palmer
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 16:39:00 Sue Hammond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 16:51:00 Sue Hammond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 17:48:00 Matt Palmer
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 18:18:00 Michael Ixer
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 20:36:00 Sue Hammond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 22:16:00 Alexander MacLeod
   Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 14:28:00 Hugh Thompson
      Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 15:13:00 Andy Pike
         Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 15:55:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 16:18:00 Andy Pike
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?14/02/19 18:17:00 Barbara Stevens
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 06:46:00 Hugh Thompson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 09:42:00 David Ainsworth
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 10:55:00 Barbara Shillabeer
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 11:03:00 Caroline Whitehead
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 11:09:00 Sue Hammond
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 11:17:00 Lucille Grant
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 12:37:00 Michael Ixer
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 13:02:00 Craig Fordham
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 15:59:00 Barbara Stevens
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?15/02/19 20:44:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?16/02/19 08:28:00 Richard Carter
   Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?16/02/19 14:13:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?16/02/19 18:31:00 Barbara Shillabeer
         Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?16/02/19 18:34:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?16/02/19 19:11:00 Michael Ixer
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 10:58:00 Sue Hammond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 11:28:00 Lucille Grant
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 12:16:00 Barbara Shillabeer
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 12:30:00 David Ainsworth
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 16:47:00 Sue Hammond
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 16:55:00 Lucille Grant
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 20:41:00 Caroline Whitehead
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 21:31:00 Lucille Grant
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 23:05:00 Sue Hammond
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 23:17:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?17/02/19 23:55:00 Sue Hammond
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 00:00:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 08:03:00 Sue Hammond
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 08:39:00 Lucille Grant
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 08:37:00 Lucille Grant
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 08:40:00 Craig Fordham
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 09:29:00 Lucille Grant
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 09:33:00 Richard Carter
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 10:22:00 John Hawkes
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 10:22:00 Michael Ixer
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 10:36:00 Fraser Pearce
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 11:36:00 Sue Hammond
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 12:18:00 Lucille Grant
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 13:10:00 Fraser Pearce
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 13:43:00 Sue Hammond
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 13:58:00 Lucille Grant
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 14:24:00 Richard Carter
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 13:19:00 Michael Ixer
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 15:43:00 Ivonne Holliday
   Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 22:18:00 Barbara Shillabeer
      Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?18/02/19 23:02:00 David Ainsworth
         Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 07:50:00 Mike Warman
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 09:16:00 Sue Hammond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 11:59:00 David Ainsworth
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 12:43:00 Caroline Whitehead
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 12:56:00 Richard Carter
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 13:13:00 Caroline Whitehead
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 18:01:00 Jonathan Callaway
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 18:52:00 Michael Ixer
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 18:57:00 Sue Hammond
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 20:08:00 Mike Warman
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 20:19:00 Sue Hammond
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 20:40:00 Mike Warman
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 21:21:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 21:39:00 Mike Warman
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 22:46:00 Michael Ixer
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 23:20:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?19/02/19 23:58:00 David Ainsworth
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 00:03:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 00:04:00 Mike Warman
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 17:39:00 John Hawkes
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 18:52:00 Michael Ixer
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 20:22:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 21:13:00 Michael Ixer
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 22:03:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 22:31:00 Michael Ixer
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should Begum Be Allowed Back?20/02/19 22:35:00 Ivonne Holliday

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