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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?
Posted by: David Ainsworth
Date/Time: 20/05/26 09:08:00

"Hamas has formally accepted a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders, but it does so without recognizing the State of Israel.This stance was officially codified in the 2017 Hamas Charter, which established a "formula of national consensus" for a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state within the borders of June 4, 1967, with Jerusalem as its capital. This position has been reiterated by leadership during political negotiations, including statements in 2024 by senior official Khalil al-Hayya indicating a readiness to accept a truce and disarm its military wing if a sovereign Palestinian state is achieved on those lines.

The acceptance of these borders is subject to two deeply conflicting interpretations:

The Pragmatic Interpretation

Provisional Statehood: Analysts and diplomats argue that accepting the 1967 borders represents a major strategic shift toward a de facto two-state compromise. By signing off on borders that match the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, Hamas implicitly acknowledges a separate entity on the other side of that line.

Long-term Truce (Hudna): Hamas leaders have historically offered long-term truces—ranging from 10 to 100 years—in exchange for an Israeli withdrawal to the 1967 lines, which some view as a functional step toward permanent coexistence.

The Ideological Interpretation

No Recognition of Israel: The 2017 Hamas Charter explicitly explicitly rules out acknowledging Israel's right to exist or legitimizing the "Zionist project".

Complete Liberation Stance: The same document states that Hamas "rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea". Because of this, Israeli officials and many security experts view the acceptance of the 1967 lines not as a permanent peace agreement, but as a temporary, tactical phase toward the ultimate goal of dissolving Israel."


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I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?06/05/26 20:06:00 Michael Brigo
   Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?07/05/26 09:42:00 Lucille Grant
      Reply07/05/26 09:51:00 Richard Carter
         Re:Reply07/05/26 10:26:00 Michael Brigo
            Re:Re:Reply23/05/26 15:01:00 John Hawkes
   Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?07/05/26 09:51:00 Steven Rose
      Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?07/05/26 10:22:00 Michael Brigo
         Re:Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?07/05/26 10:43:00 Steven Rose
            Reply07/05/26 11:55:00 Sue Hammond
         Re:Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?07/05/26 11:01:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?07/05/26 11:56:00 Lucille Grant
   Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?07/05/26 15:21:00 Ivonne Holliday
   Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"12/05/26 16:28:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"12/05/26 18:00:00 Michael Brigo
         Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"12/05/26 21:15:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"12/05/26 22:00:00 Ivonne Holliday
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"13/05/26 15:41:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"13/05/26 13:48:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"13/05/26 16:46:00 Michael Brigo
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"13/05/26 17:34:00 Steven Rose
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"13/05/26 18:39:00 Michael Brigo
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"13/05/26 18:40:00 David Ainsworth
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"13/05/26 23:14:00 David Ainsworth
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"14/05/26 00:02:00 Steven Rose
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"14/05/26 00:25:00 David Ainsworth
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"14/05/26 09:14:00 Steven Rose
                                 Reply 14/05/26 09:29:00 Sue Hammond
                                 Reply14/05/26 10:17:00 Michael Ixer
                                    Re:Reply14/05/26 10:56:00 Steven Rose
                                       Resistance is futile14/05/26 11:10:00 David Ainsworth
                                          Re:Resistance is futile15/05/26 12:21:00 John Hawkes
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"15/05/26 17:10:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"14/05/26 11:21:00 John Hawkes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"14/05/26 14:44:00 Michael Brigo
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"14/05/26 16:45:00 Steven Rose
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"14/05/26 17:43:00 David Ainsworth
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"14/05/26 17:51:00 Steven Rose
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"14/05/26 18:02:00 David Ainsworth
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"15/05/26 17:28:00 John Hawkes
                              Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"17/05/26 09:24:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"15/05/26 12:39:00 John Hawkes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"15/05/26 18:32:00 Michael Brigo
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"15/05/26 22:53:00 Steven Rose
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"15/05/26 23:28:00 David Ainsworth
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"16/05/26 00:22:00 Steven Rose
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"16/05/26 00:50:00 David Ainsworth
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"17/05/26 12:31:00 Michael Brigo
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"17/05/26 12:46:00 Steven Rose
                                             Done differently17/05/26 13:04:00 David Ainsworth
                                                Re:Done differently17/05/26 13:38:00 Robert Wheeler
                                                   Re:Re:Done differently17/05/26 17:17:00 John Hawkes
                                                Re:Done differently17/05/26 17:15:00 John Hawkes
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"17/05/26 13:51:00 John Hawkes
                                             Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"17/05/26 21:02:00 Philippa Bond
                                                Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"17/05/26 22:18:00 Steven Rose
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"17/05/26 22:26:00 David Ainsworth
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"18/05/26 09:09:00 John Hawkes
                                                Re:Re:Here's why "we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?"18/05/26 08:52:00 John Hawkes
   Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?19/05/26 12:09:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?19/05/26 16:14:00 Michael Brigo
         Re:Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?19/05/26 21:24:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?19/05/26 22:06:00 David Ainsworth
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?19/05/26 22:15:00 Steven Rose
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?19/05/26 23:38:00 David Ainsworth
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?20/05/26 00:40:00 Steven Rose
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?20/05/26 08:04:00 David Ainsworth
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?24/05/26 13:42:00 John Hawkes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?20/05/26 08:27:00 David Ainsworth
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?20/05/26 09:08:00 David Ainsworth
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?20/05/26 10:14:00 John Hawkes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:I'm sure we all condemn anti-semitism in all it's forms right?20/05/26 10:09:00 John Hawkes

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