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Posted by: John Kettlekey
Date/Time: 28/05/24 12:05:00

> All the people coming into our Country are taking away our National Health Service what we have paid for many years.

No, that's the Conservative Government of the last 14 years who are slowly asset stripping it by selling it off to their mates or companies that will give them lucrative jobs in the future.

The plan is roughly:
1. Starve the NHS of funding so that it starts to crumble
2. Blame immigration/middle-managers/lazy-employees or just the population for being sicker than they somehow need to be
3. Introduce a privatised option for a service (often heavily subsidised) and claim that the presence of the private option will boost competition between the two services and that both will flourish (ha!)
4. Continue to under-fund the NHS option so that it performs considerably worse
5. State that the privatised option is working so much better (it is, but only because it's being propped up and the NHS option is chronically under-funded) and that the sensible option is to shift everything over to the private option and sell off the NHS departments/assets for a cheap price to the private option (as they can't possibly pay market rates for such things)
6. Meanwhile you distract the population by directing their anger at the employees who want to be paid fairly (e.g. junior doctors who have a real terms pay cut of 20% over the last 10 years) or focus on the few employees (consultant surgeons) who earn really good money, or agency nurses who have huge fees only because the Government has created the staff shortage in the first place.
7. Leave it for someone else to sort out once you're eventually kicked out of Government

This works exactly the same for other privatised industries:
* Rail: Sell it off, subsidise the private companies, get the public angry at the train drivers for asking for pay rises, etc
* Energy: Sell it off, subsidise the private companies, (a bit different) blame everything on foreign wars forgetting the fact that other countries aren't quite as badly affected as they had kept reasonable stores of energy and had built their own power stations rather than paying foreign countries to build and run their power stations (at escalating costs)
* Water: Sell it off, subsidise the private companies, let them pay out huge dividends rather than investing that profit in infrastructure as they had promised to do, and then direct the public anger at the companies for hiking their future bills rather than the original privatisation decision or the complete inability to regulate the companies (and their dividend payments) along the way.
* Royal Mail: etc...

The real annoying thing is that with each privatisation they've done they've sold whatever it is off for a fraction of what it would be worth now. It was so short-termist it beggars belief.

But, yeah, keep thinking it's to do with immigration.

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