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Posted by: John Kettlekey
Date/Time: 27/05/24 15:42:00

> If you give people the vote at 16 there really isn't any argument for having the 18 limit for other things people haven't mentioned above such as credit and gambling.

There are plenty of things that aren't aligned to 18 years old.

You can get a license to ride a 50cc motorbike at 16 years old.
You can elope to Scotland and get married at 16 years old.
You can get a license to drive a car at 17 years old.

We were about to have the cut-off for smoking rise each year so that anyone born in 2009 or afterwards would never be allowed to smoke.

18 is just an arbitrary cut off. There has to be an arbitrary cut off but there's more evidence that it should be 16 than the existing cut off of 18.

Nothing magic happens at midnight on the day they turn 18. They don't suddenly become politically aware at that time. The research shows that there's a huge jump in political awareness between 14 and 16 and not much of a jump between 16 and 18 (and onwards). 16 year olds that aren't interested in politics are unlikely to vote anyway or, yes, they may vote for Count Binface or similar, but then the polls show that plenty of 18+ people do that already.

A bunch of other countries have voting ages below 18. For local elections it's 16 in both Wales and Scotland for example.

Labour wanting to lower the voting age is nothing new, if I remember correctly it has been it the last two general election manifestos. Hardly much of a fuss about it then.

It's no surprise that Tory supporters object to it as Conservative support in the younger age groups is very low. Whilst it's no surprise that the majority of other party supporters (including Labour) agree with it given the much greater support for those parties amongst the younger generations.

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