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Topic: Re:Re:Roehampton Playing Fields - Asset of Community Value
Posted by: Alan Sherman
Date/Time: 09/11/17 15:52:00

A quick google of TFC leisure shows they run Rocks Lane in Barnes, Rocks lane in Chiswick, and also the tennis facilities in Bishop's Park.  All seem well run places.
Rocks Lane Barnes has a cafe and changing facilities, as well as a playground.  It is actually quite a good model.

More worrying is the 30 year lease.  Presumably Wandsworth are trying to avoid capital expenditure to update the facilities - and are using a long lease to make it viable for the lessee to invest in the facilities.

The freehold remains with Wandsworth and TFC leisure would be the operator and 'improver' of facilities.  Wandsworth should be capital heavy due to CIL (and IIRC the annual accounts reflect this), so seems a bit of an odd move to me.

Wandsworth could invest and improve using CIL funds, have a separate 'development' project, and retain ownership of the land.  They could contract TFC (or another bidder) to operate the site as a services contract without requiring a long lease.

30 years seems a very long period for a public contract.  In my experience a 5+1+1 or a 5+2+2 period of contract is the norm, but that is for a bought service, rather than a ground lease. 

The terms of the lease contract are key here.  E.g. are local schools to be allowed 'free' access at certain times of the day?  Is that protected for the next 30 years?  What are the rules for determining access to the facilities over the period of the contract (e.g. community groups).  And how easy is it to change the terms of the lease?

Currently there isn't any allowed public access (all supposed to be booked activities).  So you can't wander past and have a kick about with your mates.  So although a public facility, it is not open access.  That could be improved.




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   Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)30/09/17 12:00:00 Anatole Beams
      Re:Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)30/09/17 12:12:00 Caroline Whitehead
         Re:Re:Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)30/09/17 13:35:00 Anatole Beams
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)30/09/17 14:21:00 Caroline Whitehead
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)30/09/17 16:03:00 Nicholas Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)30/09/17 21:48:00 Emma Blackwell
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)01/10/17 21:53:00 Alan Sherman
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)13/10/17 15:09:00 Matt Palmer
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)13/10/17 15:29:00 Emma Blackwell
   Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)13/10/17 16:33:00 Anne Kearns
      Re:Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)13/10/17 20:02:00 Alan Sherman
         Re:Re:Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)13/10/17 22:11:00 John Cameron
   Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)08/11/17 18:15:00 Stuart Moffatt
      Re:Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)08/11/17 19:36:00 Alan Sherman
         Re:Re:Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)09/11/17 05:14:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
            Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road) - council announcement09/11/17 10:32:00 Anatole Beams
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)10/11/17 10:28:00 Sarah Wilton
   Re:Roehampton playing fields (Dover House Road)09/11/17 11:18:00 steve Andrews
      Roehampton Playing Fields - Asset of Community Value09/11/17 11:40:00 John Cameron
         Re:Roehampton Playing Fields - Asset of Community Value09/11/17 15:05:00 steve Andrews
            Re:Re:Roehampton Playing Fields - Asset of Community Value09/11/17 15:52:00 Alan Sherman
               Re:Re:Re:Roehampton Playing Fields - Asset of Community Value21/11/17 19:24:00 Alan Sherman
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Roehampton Playing Fields - Asset of Community Value22/11/17 20:48:00 John Horrocks
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Roehampton Playing Fields - Asset of Community Value24/11/17 06:17:00 Chantal Blake-Milton

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