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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette
Posted by: Alex Greenbank
Date/Time: 09/06/15 17:34:00

> As long as anyone without any regulation or insurance, let alone wing mirrors, can nip down to Halfords, don a leotard, and set off into the maelstrom that is London traffic, we will continue to see this sort of confrontation, and sadly, more death and injury.

The Motor Insurers' Bureau estimates that 1,000,000 motorists drive uninsured. There are approximately 160,000 prosecutions for no insurance a year.

Another report estimates the number of unlicensed drivers (in 1999) to be around 800,000.

So less than ~96% of drivers on the road have both insurance and a valid driving license (driving without a valid license invalidates any insurance they may have).

If only they made it a legal requirement to be insured and licensed to drive a motor vehicle on the roads! That would solve it!

80% of (adult) cyclists have driving licenses and have therefore completed the same level of training as 97% of motorists. There's no statistical evidence that (in adults) cyclists without driving licenses are any more likely to be involved in an incident than those who do posses a driving license.

Whilst 100% of cyclists are uninsured?

Take the number of cyclists with third party liability insurance through membership of British Cycling, Cyclists Touring Club, London Cycling Campaign, or as part of a typical home insurance policy and there's a good chance that the percentage of cyclists with third party liability insurance is level with, or higher, than the percentage of drivers with insurance.

Figures/paraphrased from: http://singletrackworld.com/columns/2015/06/bez-them-and-us/

Of course, it must all be about their sartorial choices or lack of wing mirrors. Serves them right for delaying a motorist a few seconds from getting to the back of the next queue of traffic.


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Priory Lane Cycle Lane01/06/15 19:27:00 Lucille Grant
   Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane01/06/15 20:04:00 Adam Gray
   Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane01/06/15 20:07:00 Alex Greenbank
   Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane01/06/15 20:10:00 Adam Gray
   Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane01/06/15 20:26:00 David Ainsworth
   Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane01/06/15 21:19:00 Richard Carter
      Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane01/06/15 22:03:00 David Ainsworth
         Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane01/06/15 23:33:00 Bunny Payne
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane02/06/15 00:38:00 David Ainsworth
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane02/06/15 13:20:00 Bunny Payne
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane02/06/15 13:26:00 David Ainsworth
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane02/06/15 13:43:00 Alex Greenbank
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane02/06/15 20:50:00 Bunny Payne
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane05/06/15 02:01:00 Adam Gray
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane05/06/15 12:11:00 Alex Greenbank
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane02/06/15 09:42:00 Alex Greenbank
   Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane02/06/15 07:03:00 Lucille Grant
      Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane/ Jason Wells, owner of Brew02/06/15 08:44:00 Clive Vickers
         Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane/ Jason Wells, owner of Brew02/06/15 10:18:00 Adam Tripp
            Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane/ Jason Wells, owner of Brew02/06/15 11:51:00 Alex Greenbank
         Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane/ Jason Wells, owner of Brew02/06/15 10:20:00 Stephen Walker
            Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane/ Jason Wells, owner of Brew02/06/15 11:05:00 David Parker
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane/ Jason Wells, owner of Brew02/06/15 11:32:00 David Ainsworth
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane/ Jason Wells, owner of Brew02/06/15 14:32:00 Adam Gray
         Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane/ Jason Wells, owner of Brew02/06/15 11:00:00 David Ainsworth
            Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane/ Jason Wells, owner of Brew02/06/15 14:38:00 Adam Gray
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane/ Jason Wells, owner of Brew02/06/15 19:25:00 Bunny Payne
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane/ Jason Wells, owner of Brew05/06/15 11:45:00 Alastair Brown
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane/ Jason Wells, owner of Brew07/06/15 13:13:00 David Ainsworth
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane/ Jason Wells, owner of Brew07/06/15 18:57:00 Adam Gray
   Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane - Brew; vote with your feet02/06/15 11:45:00 Tim Lorimer
      Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane - Brew; vote with your feet02/06/15 11:52:00 Dave Roberts
         Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane - Brew; vote with your feet02/06/15 14:32:00 John Cameron
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane - Brew; vote with your feet02/06/15 14:36:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane - Brew; vote with your feet02/06/15 14:55:00 Simon Knight
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane - Brew; vote with your feet02/06/15 15:02:00 Dave Robertson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane - Brew; vote with your feet02/06/15 15:05:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                     Leave Brew alone02/06/15 15:11:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                        Re:Leave Brew alone02/06/15 15:51:00 David Ainsworth
                           Re:Re:Leave Brew alone02/06/15 16:38:00 Simon Knight
                              Re:Re:Re:Leave Brew alone02/06/15 16:40:00 Alex Greenbank
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Leave Brew alone02/06/15 16:43:00 Simon Knight
                        Re:Leave Brew alone02/06/15 19:29:00 Bunny Payne
                           Re:Re:Leave Brew alone02/06/15 20:48:00 Ian Everley
                              Re:Re:Re:Leave Brew alone02/06/15 23:04:00 Mairi Anne Bowen
                                 Consideration for others, and colossal fails02/06/15 23:22:00 Stephen Walker
                                    Re:Consideration for others, and colossal fails02/06/15 23:51:00 David Ainsworth
                                    Re:Consideration for others, and colossal fails03/06/15 08:53:00 Alex Greenbank
                                       Re:Re:Consideration for others, and colossal fails03/06/15 09:12:00 Stephen Walker
                                          Re:Re:Re:Consideration for others, and colossal fails03/06/15 12:23:00 Jonathan Callaway
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Consideration for others, and colossal fails03/06/15 12:50:00 Stephen Walker
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Consideration for others, and colossal fails03/06/15 12:51:00 Alex Greenbank
                                                So who are the real victims now?04/06/15 12:52:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                                   Re:So who are the real victims now?04/06/15 13:57:00 Alex Greenbank
                                                      Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?04/06/15 14:07:00 Dave Roberts
                                                          the real victims? come off it Chantal, you reap what you sow04/06/15 20:05:00 Clive Vickers
                                                            Re: the real victims? come off it Chantal, you reap what you sow04/06/15 20:59:00 Sue Hammond
                                                               Re:Re: the real victims? come off it Chantal, you reap what you sow05/06/15 00:13:00 Richard Carter
                                                                  Re:Re:Re: the real victims? come off it Chantal, you reap what you sow05/06/15 02:02:00 Adam Gray
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re: the real victims? come off it Chantal, you reap what you sow05/06/15 07:43:00 Richard Carter
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: the real victims? come off it Chantal, you reap what you sow05/06/15 16:37:00 Adam Gray
                                                   Re:So who are the real victims now?04/06/15 21:16:00 David Ainsworth
                                                      Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?04/06/15 21:35:00 Stephen Walker
                                                         Re:Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?04/06/15 22:43:00 Mark Smith
                                                      Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?05/06/15 02:03:00 Adam Gray
                                                         Re:Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?05/06/15 11:56:00 Richard Carter
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?05/06/15 12:43:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?05/06/15 16:45:00 Adam Gray
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?07/06/15 08:54:00 Andy Pike
                                                         Re:Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?05/06/15 12:34:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?05/06/15 14:08:00 David Ainsworth
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?05/06/15 14:25:00 Alex Greenbank
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?05/06/15 14:54:00 Stephen Walker
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?05/06/15 15:04:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?05/06/15 17:10:00 Alastair Brown
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?05/06/15 18:00:00 David Ainsworth
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?05/06/15 21:45:00 Alex Greenbank
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:So who are the real victims now?06/06/15 10:06:00 Andy Pike
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane - Brew; vote with your feet10/06/15 01:40:00 John Hoskins
   Up market 'white van man' ?!06/06/15 14:32:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Up market 'white van man' ?!06/06/15 19:45:00 Bunny Payne
         Re:Re:Up market 'white van man' ?!06/06/15 21:56:00 Stephen Walker
         Re:Re:Up market 'white van man' ?!07/06/15 00:07:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Re:Up market 'white van man' ?!07/06/15 11:00:00 David Ainsworth
               Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette07/06/15 11:35:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                  Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette07/06/15 12:46:00 Alastair Brown
                     Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette07/06/15 12:57:00 David Ainsworth
                  Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette07/06/15 13:15:00 Bunny Payne
                     Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette07/06/15 14:25:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                        Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette07/06/15 14:48:00 Andy Pike
                        Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette08/06/15 10:30:00 Stephen Walker
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 07:43:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 09:43:00 Lucille Grant
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 09:49:00 Lucille Grant
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 12:43:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 13:59:00 Caroline Whitehead
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 14:55:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 16:10:00 Adam Gray
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 16:58:00 Alex Greenbank
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 14:36:00 Stephen Walker
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 15:30:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 15:47:00 David Ainsworth
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 16:11:00 Stephen Walker
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 16:33:00 Matt Palmer
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 16:49:00 Lucille Grant
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 17:34:00 Alex Greenbank
                  Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette08/06/15 08:59:00 Alex Greenbank
                     Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 07:51:00 Chantal Blake-Milton
                        Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 10:25:00 David Ainsworth
                        Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 11:41:00 Alex Greenbank
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 21:44:00 William Smith
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette09/06/15 22:39:00 David Ainsworth
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette10/06/15 08:17:00 Alex Greenbank
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on busy roads is Russian Roulette10/06/15 09:24:00 Richard Carter
   Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane10/06/15 10:17:00 Alexander MacLeod
      Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane10/06/15 10:29:00 Richard Carter
         Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane10/06/15 10:49:00 Stephen Walker
      Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane10/06/15 10:56:00 Alex Greenbank
      Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane10/06/15 16:23:00 Adam Gray
         Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane12/06/15 13:59:00 Alexander MacLeod
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane14/06/15 01:47:00 John Hoskins
   Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane14/06/15 22:45:00 Timothy Horgan
      Re:Re:Priory Lane Cycle Lane15/06/15 18:17:00 Bunny Payne

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