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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Reply
Posted by: Steven Rose
Date/Time: 15/04/26 11:25:00

I pay contributors the courtesy of reading what they have to say, Michael, but I tend to switch off when the comments descend to pure invective against Trump e.g. ‘lost the plot’, ‘unhinged’, ‘morally incontinent’ (the last of which doesn’t actually mean anything).

Nevertheless I think it’s important to counter some of the more fanciful arguments used by opponents of the American intervention:

1) I agree that the treatment of Zelensky by Trump and Vance in the Oval Office was appalling, but to say that Trump is an ally of Putin in the war in Ukraine is absurd. The United States remains the largest single contributor of arms to Ukraine and without its intelligence sharing Ukraine would be in serious trouble. Beyond that the United States is the cornerstone of the NATO alliance. Trump’s threat to disengage from NATO is a serious problem for the UK and other European nations which should be taken seriously.

2) The idea that Iran’s stockpile of purified uranium is a myth, or that if it did exist it has been obliterated, or that Iran has no intention of producing a nuclear bomb is wishful thinking. The talks last weekend stalled precisely because Iran refused to give up the uranium and refused to give up its right to uranium enrichment in the future.

So I have two questions. How does Europe get America to renew its commitment to NATO? How does the West prevent Iran becoming a nuclear power. My answer is the same to both questions. By supporting America’s attempt to force Iran to give up its nuclear ambitions and to stop financing international terrorism. In return the West would agree to end some of the sanctions against Iran, with a full cessation of sanctions dependent on the restoration of democracy.


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Trump has completely lost the plot…14/04/26 10:12:00 Richard Carter
   Reply14/04/26 11:20:00 Michael Ixer
      Re:Reply14/04/26 11:28:00 Gerry Boyce
   Reply14/04/26 13:24:00 Michael Ixer
      Reply14/04/26 13:56:00 Richard Carter
         Reply14/04/26 16:16:00 Steven Rose
            Reply14/04/26 16:48:00 Michael Ixer
               Re:Reply14/04/26 16:57:00 Robert Wheeler
                  Reply14/04/26 17:36:00 Michael Ixer
                     Re:Reply14/04/26 18:00:00 Robert Wheeler
                        Reply14/04/26 18:11:00 Michael Ixer
                           Re:Reply14/04/26 18:14:00 Jonathan Callaway
            Reply14/04/26 16:56:00 Richard Carter
               Re:Reply14/04/26 18:39:00 Steven Rose
                  Re:Re:Reply14/04/26 19:00:00 Jonathan Callaway
            Re:Reply14/04/26 18:20:00 Ivonne Holliday
               Re:Re:Reply14/04/26 20:27:00 Steven Rose
                  Re:Re:Re:Reply14/04/26 20:52:00 Jonathan Callaway
               Re:Re:Reply14/04/26 22:44:00 Gerry Boyce
                  Reply15/04/26 08:52:00 Richard Carter
                     Re:Reply15/04/26 09:20:00 Steven Rose
                        Re:Re:Reply15/04/26 10:02:00 Michael Brigo
                           Reply15/04/26 10:36:00 Michael Ixer
                              Re:Reply15/04/26 10:41:00 Jonathan Callaway
                           Re:Re:Re:Reply15/04/26 11:25:00 Steven Rose
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply15/04/26 12:18:00 Michael Brigo
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply15/04/26 13:10:00 Steven Rose
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply15/04/26 14:21:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                    Reply15/04/26 14:46:00 Richard Carter
                                       Re:Reply15/04/26 15:01:00 Steven Rose
                                          Re:Re:Reply15/04/26 15:41:00 Ivonne Holliday
                                             Re:Re:Re:Reply15/04/26 15:50:00 Steven Rose
                                             Re:Re:Re:Reply15/04/26 15:54:00 Jonathan Callaway
                              Reply15/04/26 15:53:00 Michael Ixer
                                 Re:Reply15/04/26 18:04:00 Steven Rose
                                    Re:Re:Reply15/04/26 18:29:00 Jonathan Callaway
                                    Reply15/04/26 19:18:00 Michael Ixer
                        Re:Re:Reply16/04/26 12:57:00 John Hawkes
   Reply15/04/26 18:00:00 Ivonne Holliday
      Re:Reply16/04/26 16:34:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Reply16/04/26 17:00:00 Sue Hammond
         Re:Re:Reply16/04/26 19:29:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Reply16/04/26 20:06:00 Michael Ixer
            Re:Re:Re:Reply16/04/26 20:36:00 Steven Rose
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply16/04/26 21:04:00 Ivonne Holliday
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply16/04/26 21:53:00 Steven Rose

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