| Topic: | Re:Re:Reply | |
| Posted by: | Sue Hammond | |
| Date/Time: | 21/02/26 19:07:00 |
| @Steven Rose 19/02/26 23:21:00 Well they both cannot be right or telling the truth, can they? And where is their Mother in all of this? From Wiki: ‘In 2011, Giuffre first described meeting Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor to the Daily Mail; the reporter wrote "there is no suggestion that there was any sexual contact between Virginia and Andrew" in the interview. Giuffre later alleged that she had been trafficked by Epstein to Andrew, and raped on three occasions. In 2021, she filed the civil suit Virginia Giuffre v. Prince Andrew. The lawsuit was settled in February 2022. Andrew paid Giuffre an undisclosed amount, made a donation to her charity, denied wrongdoing, and settled without admission of liability. Giuffre pursued criminal and civil actions against Epstein and Maxwell, suing Maxwell for defamation in 2015 after Maxwell called her a "liar"; with the case settled in 2017 for an undisclosed sum. ***In 2014 she claimed Alan Dershowitz sexually abused her (which he denied), and then in 2022 retracted those claims.*** According to documents released in 2026 as part of the Epstein Files, FBI investigators were unable to substantiate that Epstein 'lent' girls out to other powerful men, and stated in a 2019 memo that she gave 'shifting accounts', and made public statements described as 'sensationalized' or 'demonstrably inaccurate'. Giuffre died by suicide in April 2025. Her memoir, Nobody's Girl, was published posthumously in October 2025.’ I have downloaded Nobody’s Girl but haven’t started to read it yet but it will be interesting to see how it compares to her first memoir. ‘In Nobody's Girl, Giuffre wrote that, between the ages of 7–11, she was sexually molested by her father who traded her to a family friend (who later became a registered sex offender for abusing another minor). Giuffre said that she went from being in "an abusive situation, to being a runaway, to living in foster homes". She lived on the streets at age 14, where she says she found only "hunger and pain and [more] abuse". At some point between age 13 and age 15, Giuffre was abused by a sex trafficker, Ron Eppinger, in Miami. Giuffre lived with Eppinger for approximately six months. Eppinger reportedly ran a front business for international sex trafficking known as the modeling agency "Perfect 10". He was raided by the FBI and later pleaded guilty to charges of alien smuggling for prostitution, interstate travel for prostitution, and money laundering. Giuffre reunited with her father and returned to live with him. Her father worked as a maintenance manager at the Mar-a-Lago property owned by Donald Trump, and helped Giuffre obtain a job there in 2000. In mid-2000, Giuffre met Ghislaine Maxwell when working as a spa attendant at Mar-a-Lago, while reading a book about massage therapy. Maxwell, a British socialite and daughter of media tycoon Robert Maxwell, approached Giuffre, noted the book that she was reading, inquired about her interest in massage, and offered her a potential job working for Epstein as a traveling masseuse with the assurance that no experience was necessary.’ There is no doubt the VG had a very troubled upbringing but when she was introduced to Andrew in 2001 she was certainly not an innocent 17 year old as implied by her Brother. To be honest my impression for a long time has been that VG was quite okay with being flown around the world in Epstein’s private jet, staying in luxury hotels and apartments and the sex was an acceptable trade-off. Call me an old cynic … I know that I will be vilified for this post but hey ho we’ll never know - the real truth. ***How interesting that VG accused a lawyer and law professor of abusing her but later retracted her claims. |
| Topic | Date Posted | Posted By |
| Andrew formerly known as Prince Arrested … | 19/02/26 10:10:00 | Sue Hammond |
| Re:Andrew formerly known as Prince Arrested … | 19/02/26 10:25:00 | Sue Hammond |
| Re:Re:Andrew formerly known as Prince Arrested … | 19/02/26 10:53:00 | David Ainsworth |
| Re:Re:Re:Andrew formerly known as Prince Arrested … | 19/02/26 11:04:00 | David Ainsworth |
| Reply | 19/02/26 11:24:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Charles’ Statement | 19/02/26 12:18:00 | Sue Hammond |
| Re:Andrew formerly known as Prince Arrested … | 19/02/26 15:11:00 | Gerry Boyce |
| Re:Re:Andrew formerly known as Prince Arrested … | 19/02/26 15:58:00 | Jonathan Callaway |
| Re:Re:Re:Andrew formerly known as Prince Arrested … | 19/02/26 16:40:00 | Gerry Boyce |
| Reply | 19/02/26 17:41:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Reply | 19/02/26 17:50:00 | Sue Hammond |
| Re:Reply | 19/02/26 18:07:00 | Gerry Boyce |
| Reply | 19/02/26 17:16:00 | Michael Brigo |
| Reply | 19/02/26 17:40:00 | Martine Guy |
| Re:Reply | 19/02/26 19:11:00 | Steven Rose |
| Mandelson | 19/02/26 20:12:00 | David Ainsworth |
| Reply | 19/02/26 22:35:00 | Sue Hammond |
| Reply | 19/02/26 22:46:00 | Sue Hammond |
| Dark night of the soul | 19/02/26 23:09:00 | David Ainsworth |
| Reply | 19/02/26 23:19:00 | Martine Guy |
| Re:Reply | 19/02/26 23:21:00 | Steven Rose |
| Re:Re:Reply | 21/02/26 19:07:00 | Sue Hammond |
| Reply | 19/02/26 23:25:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Reply | 19/02/26 23:36:00 | Martine Guy |
| Re:Reply | 20/02/26 03:17:00 | Patrick D Barrs |
| Re:Re:Reply | 20/02/26 09:24:00 | David Ainsworth |
| Re:Re:Re:Reply | 21/02/26 13:41:00 | Barbara Stevens |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply | 21/02/26 19:23:00 | Robert Wheeler |
| Reply | 21/02/26 20:02:00 | Martine Guy |
| Reply | 21/02/26 20:14:00 | Martine Guy |
| Re:Reply | 22/02/26 13:08:00 | Sue Hammond |
| Re:Reply | 21/02/26 21:18:00 | Gerry Boyce |
| Re:Reply | 22/02/26 17:44:00 | Sue Hammond |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply | 21/02/26 21:10:00 | Gerry Boyce |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply | 21/02/26 20:41:00 | David Ainsworth |
| Reply | 21/02/26 20:57:00 | Martine Guy |
| Re:Reply | 21/02/26 22:02:00 | David Ainsworth |
| Reply | 21/02/26 22:16:00 | Martine Guy |
| Re:Reply | 21/02/26 22:50:00 | David Ainsworth |
| Reply | 21/02/26 23:56:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Reply | 22/02/26 09:32:00 | Barbara Stevens |
| Reply | 22/02/26 10:02:00 | Martine Guy |
| Re:Reply | 22/02/26 10:54:00 | Barbara Stevens |
| Reply | 22/02/26 11:15:00 | David Ainsworth |
| Reply | 22/02/26 11:36:00 | Martine Guy |
| Reply | 22/02/26 11:50:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Reply | 22/02/26 11:59:00 | Martine Guy |
| Re:Reply | 22/02/26 12:22:00 | David Ainsworth |
| Reply | 22/02/26 12:51:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Reply | 22/02/26 14:53:00 | David Ainsworth |
| Reply | 22/02/26 16:25:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Reply | 22/02/26 18:17:00 | Martine Guy |
| Re:Reply | 22/02/26 19:07:00 | David Ainsworth |
| Re:Re:Reply | 23/02/26 14:31:00 | Barbara Stevens |