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Posted by: Michael Ixer
Date/Time: 16/04/24 12:26:00

I'm not sure I've seen 2030 being set as a critical date for climate change, other than the one originally set for final sale of ICE cars in the UK, now charged and aligned with the EU one of 2035.

The net zero target date is 2050 as far as I'm aware. I regularly attend science lectures, mainly at Imperial College or hosted by the British Astronomical Association, and I'd say I've met few attendees or lecturers who don't accept the realities of man made climate change (well, except Piers Corbyn who always seems to be popping up); the evidence of the exponential rise in the proportion of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere is all too obvious. What isn't too clear is the rate at which temperatures will rise and at what point the level of greenhouse gases will reach an irreversible "runaway" point. For example,  my understanding (which is a very amateur one) is that the effect of polar ice cap melting was underestimated. The compounded effect is that as the more ice melts the reflective effect on sunlight will reduce adding to the heating of the earth. The underestimate of this one parameter could mean 2050 is too late.

I must admit the burying of heads in the sand by many world leaders, CEOs, etc isn't encouraging but at my age the long term effect probably isn't going to affect me significantly. However, I suspect we've reached the point now that the only way of recovering the situation is an effective carbon capture process but to date we're short of delivering one that is anywhere near effective enough to solve the potential catastrophe.

Personally, if I was a "young person" I might be anxious about the future but, perhaps given Ukraine and the Middle East, one should be more concerned about someone throwing nuclear weapons around?

Anyway,  as I understand it, the ECHR case was about the right to family life as an direct result of the failure to act on net zero? So if the women were constrained in that - either being forced to stay at home or having their lives shortened by rising temperatures - then surely that is a legal judgement on their reduced quality of family life? If the result of that is that governments have to take action to mitigate climate change, and halt the potential extinction of the human race, then who could argue that's a bad thing even if it is poor democracy? Well, except perhaps the cockroaches who are waiting around to claim world domination! :-)



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Comedy gold13/04/24 15:10:00 Richard Carter
   Re:Comedy gold - not so much14/04/24 10:14:00 Nicholas Evans
      Re:Re:Comedy gold - not so much14/04/24 11:45:00 John Hawkes
         Reply14/04/24 12:09:00 Nicholas Evans
            Re:Reply14/04/24 13:46:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Comedy gold - not so much14/04/24 13:01:00 Ivonne Holliday
   Re:Comedy gold14/04/24 11:12:00 John Hawkes
   Re:Comedy gold14/04/24 15:54:00 Steven Rose
      Re:Re:Comedy gold14/04/24 16:55:00 Ivonne Holliday
         Re:Re:Re:Comedy gold14/04/24 20:02:00 Freddie Francis
            Reply14/04/24 20:22:00 Michael Ixer
               Re:Reply14/04/24 21:21:00 Freddie Francis
                  Reply14/04/24 21:30:00 Michael Ixer
                     Re:Reply14/04/24 22:05:00 Steven Rose
                        Reply14/04/24 22:29:00 Michael Ixer
                           Re:Reply15/04/24 10:28:00 John Hawkes
                              Reply15/04/24 11:13:00 Michael Ixer
                     Re:Reply15/04/24 10:26:00 John Hawkes
                        Reply15/04/24 11:29:00 Michael Ixer
               Re:Reply15/04/24 09:59:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Comedy gold14/04/24 22:48:00 Richard Carter
         Re:Re:Re:Comedy gold15/04/24 10:19:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Comedy gold15/04/24 12:38:00 Ivonne Holliday
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Comedy gold15/04/24 15:46:00 Steven Rose
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Comedy gold15/04/24 16:21:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Comedy gold15/04/24 16:36:00 Richard Carter
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Comedy gold15/04/24 17:31:00 Steven Rose
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Comedy gold15/04/24 17:41:00 Ivonne Holliday
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Comedy gold15/04/24 18:42:00 Steven Rose
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Comedy gold15/04/24 19:47:00 Ivonne Holliday
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Comedy gold15/04/24 20:57:00 Steven Rose
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Comedy gold16/04/24 09:35:00 Ivonne Holliday
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Comedy gold16/04/24 10:24:00 John Hawkes
                        Reply16/04/24 12:26:00 Michael Ixer
                           Reply16/04/24 13:08:00 Michael Ixer
                              Re:Reply17/04/24 15:46:00 Philippa Bond

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