| Topic: | Re:Re:Reply | |
| Posted by: | John Hawkes | |
| Date/Time: | 24/03/24 11:55:00 |
| Ms Bond 'I think it IS a problem that many are either not aware of the creation of Israel and the displacement of the people of different religions who were already living peaceably in Palestine or perhaps are in denial since there are some who do not want to admit to or object to discussing the past' This is my understanding of the creation of Israel that I posted on another thread. Please correct me if I am wrong. --------------------------------------------------- But to put all the discussions about Israel and Palestine in an historical context , it should not be forgotten that there have been Jews living in the region for millennia alongside Arabs. Read the Bible ! The 'Two State Solution' has been on the agenda at least since the Balfour Declaration of 1917 "favouring the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.....it being clearly understood that nothing be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine". Emir Faisal, son of Sherif Hussein leader of the Arab revolt against the occupying Turks, signed an agreement with Chaim Weizmann during the 1919 Peace Conference supporting the Declaration and acknowledging the 'kinship and bonds' between Arabs and Jews. The international community accepted the Declaration which specifically referred to "the historical connections of the Jewish people with Palestine" and included it in terms of the British Mandate for the region which was formalised by the fifty-two governments at the League of Nations in 1922. Ironically Churchill in 1921 took four-fifths of Palestine, 35,000 square miles, to create a new Arab entity Transjordan and by 1949 Britain allocated 87,000 acres of the 187,000 cultivatable land to the Arabs and 4,250 to the Jews. In 1922 the Jewish population in Palestine was 84,000 and the Arab 643,000. In 1939 the British also said Jewish immigration into Palestine would be limited to 75,000 during the next 5 years and then cease. Arab migration would be unrestricted. The Arabs rejected these terms. In 1937 the Peel Commission, following the ending of the British Mandate in Palestine offered the Jews 15% of Western Palestine and the Arabs independence in the rest. This was rejected by the Arabs. In 1941, the Mufti of Jerusalem left Palestine to meet with Hitler. He wanted the Nazis to extend their anti-Jewish program to the Arab world. Hitler said the time was not yet right but the Mufti thanked him for his sympathy to the Palestinian cause and saying the Arabs were Germany's natural friends. Then the UN set up a Special Commission on Palestine in 1947 which recommended the establishment of two separate states - one Jewish and one Arab. Jews welcomed the compromise. The Arabs rejected it wanting a unitary Arab state and not wanting to be seen recognising Israel. And the interagency and antagonism of the Arabs towards Israel continues to this day. Even though the Arabs govern Gaza and the West Bank. Sorry to go on so long but I think it time we get away from the simplistic view that Israel is and always has been the colonial oppressor of poor little, friendless Palestine and realise it's more complex than that. |
| Topic | Date Posted | Posted By |
| Long Read in today's Guardian Israel/Gaza | 22/03/24 10:56:00 | Lucille Grant |
| Re:Long Read in today's Guardian Israel/Gaza | 22/03/24 14:32:00 | Ivonne Holliday |
| Re:Long Read in today's Guardian Israel/Gaza | 22/03/24 15:38:00 | Clifford Cowell |
| Re:Re:Long Read in today's Guardian Israel/Gaza | 22/03/24 16:57:00 | Lucille Grant |
| Re:Re:Re:Long Read in today's Guardian Israel/Gaza | 22/03/24 19:11:00 | Steven Rose |
| Re:Re:Re:Long Read in today's Guardian Israel/Gaza | 23/03/24 14:44:00 | Clifford Cowell |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Long Read in today's Guardian Israel/Gaza | 23/03/24 17:21:00 | Steven Rose |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Long Read in today's Guardian Israel/Gaza | 23/03/24 19:29:00 | Lucille Grant |
| Re:Re:Long Read in today's Guardian Israel/Gaza | 24/03/24 10:56:00 | John Hawkes |
| Reply | 23/03/24 15:24:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Reply | 23/03/24 23:38:00 | Philippa Bond |
| Re:Re:Reply | 24/03/24 11:55:00 | John Hawkes |
| Re:Reply | 24/03/24 11:21:00 | John Hawkes |
| Re:Re:Reply | 24/03/24 12:26:00 | Philippa Bond |
| Re:Re:Re:Reply | 24/03/24 13:46:00 | John Hawkes |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply | 24/03/24 19:12:00 | Philippa Bond |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply | 25/03/24 10:21:00 | John Hawkes |