I am not sure what point you are trying to make, Jonathan. The Swiss referendum to accelerate progress to net zero is an example of democracy in action. The decision by the ECHR to impose net zero on Switzerland was an example of judicial overreach: unelected judges were attempting to interfere in a political issue which should have been left to the Swiss people and their elected representatives to determine. As to the motives of the British judges who have blocked deportation orders, it is difficult to say. I suspect that some judges are more concerned with the human rights of foreign criminals and illegal migrants than with the rights of British people to feel safe and to decide who shall come to live in this country. Other judges may have no particular axe to grind but rather slavishly follow the extreme interpretation of the Convention taken by the ECHR. But it comes to the same thing. Whatever their motives, they are preventing the executive from deporting individuals who either have no right to be here or who have lost that right because of their behaviour. Even Keir Starmer has recognised that this is a problem. Unfortunately his proposed solution, namely to disapply certain provisions of the Convention, may not succeed and would in any case take too long to achieve. Meanwhile thousand of migrants continue to arrive on our shores. I believe in the independence of the judiciary but by the same token judges should not seek to interfere in political issues.

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Topic	Date Posted	Posted By
The real reason for removing the ECHR?	31/10/25 19:00:00	Michael Ixer
Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	31/10/25 19:24:00	Ivonne Holliday
Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	31/10/25 21:09:00	Jonathan Callaway
Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	31/10/25 21:43:00	Gerry Boyce
Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	01/11/25 00:59:00	Steven Rose
Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	01/11/25 10:45:00	Jonathan Callaway
Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	01/11/25 05:56:00	Gerry Boyce
Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	01/11/25 08:17:00	Robert Wheeler
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	01/11/25 10:09:00	Michael Brigo
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	02/11/25 01:35:00	Ed Robinson
Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	01/11/25 10:14:00	Jonathan Callaway
Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	01/11/25 12:19:00	Gerry Boyce
Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	01/11/25 13:17:00	Steven Rose
Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	01/11/25 15:26:00	Michael Brigo
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	01/11/25 16:02:00	Steven Rose
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	01/11/25 16:05:00	Ivonne Holliday
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	01/11/25 16:40:00	Michael Brigo
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	01/11/25 16:49:00	Gerry Boyce
Reply	01/11/25 16:17:00	Sue Hammond
Reply	01/11/25 16:59:00	Michael Ixer
Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?	01/11/25 16:29:00	Jonathan Callaway
Reply	01/11/25 17:34:00	Ivonne Holliday
Reply	01/11/25 22:31:00	Michael Ixer
Re:Reply	02/11/25 21:48:00	Jonathan Callaway
Reply	01/11/25 17:05:00	Michael Ixer
Reply	01/11/25 17:19:00	Michael Ixer
Re:Reply	01/11/25 18:30:00	Philippa Bond
Re:Reply	01/11/25 18:46:00	Steven Rose
Reply	01/11/25 22:49:00	Michael Ixer
Re:Reply	01/11/25 23:49:00	Steven Rose
Re:Re:Reply	02/11/25 17:02:00	Michael Brigo
Re:Reply	02/11/25 13:32:00	John Hawkes
Re:Re:Reply	02/11/25 17:52:00	Steven Rose
Re:Re:Re:Reply	02/11/25 21:19:00	Michael Brigo
Reply	02/11/25 18:04:00	Michael Ixer
Re:Reply	02/11/25 18:17:00	Sue Hammond
Reply	02/11/25 18:23:00	Michael Ixer
Re:Re:Reply	02/11/25 22:00:00	Jonathan Callaway
Re:Re:Re:Reply	02/11/25 22:02:00	Jonathan Callaway

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