| Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | |
| Posted by: | Jonathan Callaway | |
| Date/Time: | 01/11/25 10:45:00 |
| "Activist judges". Who are they exactly and what judgements are the ones that seem to have caused the use of such an epithet? We never seem to hear just what is being complained about. And surely we do not want to take up Jenrick's idea that politicians should appoint judges? That would definitely undermine the much valued independence of the judiciary - and we have seen in the US how politicised courts make their decisions. Surely this "activist judges" line is just an extension of that disgraceful Daily Mail headline "Enemies of the People" with mugshots of the three senior judges who had made a decision the Brexiteers did not like. Paul Dacre's un-finest hour, in my view. What outraged many members of the judiciary was the complete silence of the Lord Chancellor at the time, Liz Truss, who should have rushed to the defence of this attack on the judiciary. Brenda Hale set out her reasoning very clearly in the interview about the prorogation ruling - which was unanimous by the way, all 12 judges deciding the government's actions were illegal and null and void. It went to the Supreme Court because the courts in England and Scotland had come to different conclusions about the constitutional correctness of the government's decision. The chicken nugget case is still under review. It had of course been seized on by the right wing press as a cause celebre. Reporting in the Mail, Sun, Express, Talk TV, GB News etc etc was extensive, not so much elsewhere. The government itself expressed anger and frustration at the decision but this is just one judge interpreting the law as he sees it. The remedy, if the government wants to go there, is to change the law. But just listen to Brenda Hale's views on the unintended consequences of the UK exiting the ECHR - on Northern Ireland, on the refugee convention etc etc. Only Russia has actually left the ECHR so following suit would not be a good look, internationally. |
| Topic | Date Posted | Posted By |
| The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 31/10/25 19:00:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 31/10/25 19:24:00 | Ivonne Holliday |
| Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 31/10/25 21:09:00 | Jonathan Callaway |
| Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 31/10/25 21:43:00 | Gerry Boyce |
| Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 01/11/25 00:59:00 | Steven Rose |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 01/11/25 10:45:00 | Jonathan Callaway |
| Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 01/11/25 05:56:00 | Gerry Boyce |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 01/11/25 08:17:00 | Robert Wheeler |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 01/11/25 10:09:00 | Michael Brigo |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 02/11/25 01:35:00 | Ed Robinson |
| Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 01/11/25 10:14:00 | Jonathan Callaway |
| Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 01/11/25 12:19:00 | Gerry Boyce |
| Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 01/11/25 13:17:00 | Steven Rose |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 01/11/25 15:26:00 | Michael Brigo |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 01/11/25 16:02:00 | Steven Rose |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 01/11/25 16:05:00 | Ivonne Holliday |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 01/11/25 16:40:00 | Michael Brigo |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 01/11/25 16:49:00 | Gerry Boyce |
| Reply | 01/11/25 16:17:00 | Sue Hammond |
| Reply | 01/11/25 16:59:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR? | 01/11/25 16:29:00 | Jonathan Callaway |
| Reply | 01/11/25 17:34:00 | Ivonne Holliday |
| Reply | 01/11/25 22:31:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Reply | 01/11/25 17:05:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Reply | 01/11/25 17:19:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Reply | 01/11/25 18:30:00 | Philippa Bond |
| Re:Reply | 01/11/25 18:46:00 | Steven Rose |
| Reply | 01/11/25 22:49:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Reply | 01/11/25 23:49:00 | Steven Rose |
| Re:Re:Reply | 02/11/25 17:02:00 | Michael Brigo |
| Re:Reply | 02/11/25 13:32:00 | John Hawkes |
| Re:Re:Reply | 02/11/25 17:52:00 | Steven Rose |
| Re:Re:Re:Reply | 02/11/25 21:19:00 | Michael Brigo |
| Reply | 02/11/25 18:04:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Reply | 02/11/25 18:17:00 | Sue Hammond |
| Reply | 02/11/25 18:23:00 | Michael Ixer |