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Topic: Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?
Posted by: Steven Rose
Date/Time: 01/11/25 13:17:00

Activist judges, Jonathan, do not merely interpret the law, they make the law. This distinction is fundamentally one of degree but sometimes the degree is so great that it is clear that the judiciary is usurping the role of the legislature. The most obvious example is the decision by the ECHR to condemn Switzerland's tardy progress towards net zero on the basis of Article 8 of the European Convention which guarantees the right to family. Thus a political issue, net zero, which should be subject to the democratic will of the Swiss people,  has been captured by the unelected judges of the EHCR who have chosen to extend the meaning of the Convention  in a way never intended by the original signatories. Similarly Britush judges who halt the deportation of foreign criminals and illegal migrants, justifying their decision on the basis of extreme interpretations of the Convention by the activist judges of the ECHR, are frustrating the will of the elected government. Even Keir Starmer has declared his dissatisfaction over this situation. So it is somewhat disingenuous to pretend that this issue has simply been concocted by the right wing press. Both major parties agree that the ECHR is a problem. The disagreement is over whether the UK should withdraw from the Convention, as the Conservatives propose, or whether parts of the Convention should be disapplied, which seems to be Labour's position.


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The real reason for removing the ECHR?31/10/25 19:00:00 Michael Ixer
   Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?31/10/25 19:24:00 Ivonne Holliday
   Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?31/10/25 21:09:00 Jonathan Callaway
      Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?31/10/25 21:43:00 Gerry Boyce
         Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?01/11/25 00:59:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?01/11/25 10:45:00 Jonathan Callaway
         Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?01/11/25 05:56:00 Gerry Boyce
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?01/11/25 08:17:00 Robert Wheeler
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?01/11/25 10:09:00 Michael Brigo
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?02/11/25 01:35:00 Ed Robinson
   Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?01/11/25 10:14:00 Jonathan Callaway
      Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?01/11/25 12:19:00 Gerry Boyce
         Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?01/11/25 13:17:00 Steven Rose
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?01/11/25 15:26:00 Michael Brigo
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?01/11/25 16:02:00 Steven Rose
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?01/11/25 16:05:00 Ivonne Holliday
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?01/11/25 16:40:00 Michael Brigo
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?01/11/25 16:49:00 Gerry Boyce
               Reply01/11/25 16:17:00 Sue Hammond
                  Reply01/11/25 16:59:00 Michael Ixer
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The real reason for removing the ECHR?01/11/25 16:29:00 Jonathan Callaway
               Reply01/11/25 17:34:00 Ivonne Holliday
                  Reply01/11/25 22:31:00 Michael Ixer
   Reply01/11/25 17:05:00 Michael Ixer
   Reply01/11/25 17:19:00 Michael Ixer
      Re:Reply01/11/25 18:30:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Reply01/11/25 18:46:00 Steven Rose
         Reply01/11/25 22:49:00 Michael Ixer
            Re:Reply01/11/25 23:49:00 Steven Rose
               Re:Re:Reply02/11/25 17:02:00 Michael Brigo
            Re:Reply02/11/25 13:32:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Reply02/11/25 17:52:00 Steven Rose
                  Re:Re:Re:Reply02/11/25 21:19:00 Michael Brigo
               Reply02/11/25 18:04:00 Michael Ixer
                  Re:Reply02/11/25 18:17:00 Sue Hammond
                     Reply02/11/25 18:23:00 Michael Ixer

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