| Topic: | Re:Reply | |
| Posted by: | John Hawkes | |
| Date/Time: | 23/02/26 11:33:00 |
| Mr Ixer 'I'm not sure I could define British, it's obviously evolved since the 1950s and 60s when there were remnants of the British Empire, and people still thought of Ruling the Waves. ' Could you define French, German, Italian.....? They themselves could and do. As I am sure you could also as a warmth towards anything/person from the continent of Europe just oozes from the open heartedness you express towards them. None of them of course once nasty imperialists with a desire to rule the waves and keep a white foot on a black neck. But you can't define British. It's just those of your own (and here I recognise I am making an assumption as to what that is) heritage and lineage on which you vent your ire and splenetic attitude. You are a classic example of the type of Brit (assuming you are such) that Orwell so despised. "“In intention, at any rate, the English intelligentsia are Europeanized. They take their cookery from Paris and their opinions from Moscow. (NOW - THOSE FROM ANY ISLAMIST OR ANTI-AMERICAN SOURCE). In the general patriotism of the country they form a sort of island of dissident thought. England is perhaps the only great country whose intellectuals are ashamed of their own nationality. In left-wing circles it is always felt that there is something slightly disgraceful in being an Englishman and that it is a duty to snigger at every English institution, from horse racing to suet puddings. It is a strange fact, but it is unquestionably true that almost any English intellectual would feel more ashamed of standing to attention during ‘God save the King’ than of stealing from a poor box. All through the critical years many left-wingers were chipping away at English morale, trying to spread an outlook that was sometimes squashily pacifist, sometimes violently pro-Russian (NOW PRO-ISLAMIST), but always anti-British.” ― George Orwell, England Your England You claim - 'Anyway, I'm sure the Scots, Welsh, English and Irish wouldn't agree on the term "British"'. This is a good example of your usual flawed logic. What are these groups other than people who chose to identify as members of a subset of the total population of Britain - ie British. Many calling themselves Scot, Welsh or Irish were not even born in those parts of the Kingdom and the majority of them have shown themselves to have no desire to leave it, because of their financial dependence upon its English economy and subsidy if for no other reason. 'You'd probably also get a different answer from a wealthy finance person in the City, an IT will kid in a Cambridge technology incubator company. to an unemployed person in Newcastle, irrespective of their racial backgrounds'. Probably true. The former a citizen of nowhere rather than Britain. The latter cheering for England at football and wondering if his lack of employment is cause by the vast number of immigrants enabling wage cutting. As for those of your other cohorts, the EU lovers of Irish ancestry (think farming subsidies), let them go and live where they feel most at home if it is not in Britain. Just make them choose a single nationality and passport and not have the benefit of dual nationality with which to hedge their bets. |
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