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Topic: Re:Reply
Posted by: Steven Rose
Date/Time: 01/07/25 23:24:00

I am also confused about the point David Ainsworth is trying to make, Sue. Lucille's rejoinder to Richard, in effect that he doesn't have the right to tell Jewish people what anti-Semitism means, has nothing whatever to do with John's point that Michael Rosen's Jewish heritage does not necessarily  mean that his views about Israel are correct.

On anti-Semitism, no one person has the right to rule on what is or what isn't anti-Semitic. But when the Prime Minister, the Culture Secretary, the BBC itself, Offcom and the Chief Rabbi all agree that Vylan's rant was anti-Semitic, perhaps Richard should consider whether he has got this issue wrong.

John's point is obviously correct. Your heritage is no guarantee that you are talking sense on an issue of race. What happens when two people of the same race disagree? As I think  Lucille pointed out, Jews, especially in this country, have widely different views on the conflict in Gaza.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Glastonbury ~ Mr Vylan😡29/06/25 11:18:00 Sue Hammond
   Re:Glastonbury ~ Mr Vylan😡29/06/25 11:30:00 Michael Brigo
      Re:Re:Glastonbury ~ Mr Vylan😡29/06/25 11:42:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Glastonbury ~ Mr Vylan😡29/06/25 11:48:00 Michael Brigo
            Reply29/06/25 12:15:00 Sue Hammond
               Re:Reply29/06/25 12:26:00 Michael Brigo
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Glastonbury ~ Mr Vylan😡29/06/25 12:30:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Glastonbury ~ Mr Vylan😡29/06/25 12:34:00 Michael Brigo
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Glastonbury ~ Mr Vylan😡29/06/25 12:49:00 John Hawkes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Glastonbury ~ Mr Vylan😡29/06/25 14:26:00 Michael Brigo
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Glastonbury ~ Mr Vylan😡29/06/25 15:16:00 John Hawkes
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Glastonbury ~ Mr Vylan😡29/06/25 17:01:00 Michael Brigo
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Glastonbury ~ Mr Vylan😡29/06/25 22:54:00 Michael Brigo
                                 Reply30/06/25 16:06:00 Michael Ixer
                                    Re:Reply01/07/25 10:44:00 John Hawkes
   Reply29/06/25 12:47:00 Michael Ixer
   Re:Glastonbury ~ Mr Vylan😡29/06/25 13:31:00 Ivonne Holliday
      Reply29/06/25 14:20:00 Sue Hammond
         Re:Reply29/06/25 14:44:00 Ivonne Holliday
            Re:Re:Reply29/06/25 14:56:00 Andy Pike
               Nurse! Nurse!30/06/25 13:42:00 Richard Carter
                  Re:Nurse! Nurse!30/06/25 14:14:00 Andy Pike
                     Re:Re:Nurse! Nurse!30/06/25 14:18:00 Richard Carter
                        Re:Re:Re:Nurse! Nurse!30/06/25 14:32:00 Lucille Grant
                        Re:Re:Re:Nurse! Nurse!01/07/25 10:52:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Re:Glastonbury ~ Mr Vylan😡29/06/25 16:43:00 John Hawkes
   Reply29/06/25 21:40:00 Michael Ixer
   Re:Glastonbury ~ Mr Vylan😡29/06/25 23:29:00 Joe Cairns
      Re:Re:Glastonbury ~ Mr Vylan😡30/06/25 14:14:00 Gerry Boyce
         Re:Re:Re:Glastonbury ~ Mr Vylan😡30/06/25 15:36:00 Michael Brigo
   Reply30/06/25 13:37:00 Richard Carter
      Re:Reply30/06/25 13:53:00 Robert Wheeler
         Re:Re:Reply30/06/25 14:14:00 Richard Carter
            Re:Re:Re:Reply30/06/25 14:20:00 Robert Wheeler
            Re:Re:Re:Reply30/06/25 14:37:00 Lucille Grant
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 11:15:00 John Hawkes
                  Surely, death to Forum debate?01/07/25 11:39:00 David Ainsworth
                     Re:Surely, death to Forum debate?01/07/25 12:04:00 John Hawkes
                     Re:Surely, death to Forum debate?01/07/25 13:35:00 Lucille Grant
                        Re:Re:Surely, death to Forum debate?01/07/25 14:23:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 11:11:00 John Hawkes
      Re:Reply30/06/25 14:38:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Reply30/06/25 15:02:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Reply30/06/25 15:11:00 Richard Carter
      Re:Reply01/07/25 10:56:00 John Hawkes
   Reply30/06/25 15:03:00 Michael Ixer
      Re:Reply30/06/25 15:17:00 Ivonne Holliday
         Reply30/06/25 15:35:00 Michael Ixer
         Re:Re:Reply30/06/25 15:37:00 Steven Rose
            Misunderstanding alert!30/06/25 16:38:00 Richard Carter
               Re:Misunderstanding alert!30/06/25 17:24:00 Steven Rose
               Re:Misunderstanding alert!01/07/25 12:01:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 11:29:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 11:26:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 12:37:00 Lucille Grant
      Reply30/06/25 17:10:00 Michael Ixer
         Back on topic 30/06/25 22:14:00 Sue Hammond
            Re:Back on topic 01/07/25 12:08:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Back on topic 01/07/25 13:18:00 Michael Ixer
                  Re:Re:Re:Back on topic 01/07/25 13:24:00 John Hawkes
            Re:Back on topic 01/07/25 16:08:00 Gerry Boyce
            What fools these mortals be01/07/25 17:47:00 David Ainsworth
      Re:Reply01/07/25 11:20:00 John Hawkes
         Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 12:10:00 Michael Ixer
            Re:Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 12:14:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 13:10:00 John Hawkes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 18:50:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 13:40:00 Lucille Grant
            Re:Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 12:44:00 Lucille Grant
            Re:Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 13:01:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 14:46:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 16:43:00 John Hawkes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 15:24:00 David Ainsworth
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 16:13:00 John Hawkes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 16:28:00 Ivonne Holliday
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply01/07/25 16:49:00 John Hawkes
                        Through the Looking Glass01/07/25 17:35:00 David Ainsworth
                           Reply01/07/25 19:15:00 Sue Hammond
                              Re:Reply01/07/25 23:24:00 Steven Rose
                                 Re:Re:Reply02/07/25 00:04:00 David Ainsworth
                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply02/07/25 00:49:00 Steven Rose
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply02/07/25 07:33:00 Lucille Grant
   Reply02/07/25 09:31:00 Richard Carter
      Re:Reply02/07/25 11:13:00 Robert Wheeler

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