| Topic: | Re:Do unto others as you would have them do unto you | |
| Posted by: | John Hawkes | |
| Date/Time: | 07/12/24 13:10:00 |
| 'No country has a right to exist, so what do people really mean when they say Israel does'? Firstly this begs the question does the United Kingdom have the right to exist. If not presumably there is no legal basis for us to defend ourselves were Putin to invade (a long shot I agree) in an attempt to make us part of an extended Russian empire. And perhaps Mr Ainsworth might not appreciate it but the gist of this comment means that Palestine has no right to exist either. 'Israel has no right to exist because no nation does; *only people do. Israelis exist; so do Palestinians. They all have a right to exist but only because they are human beings*'. Fallacious and childlike argument verging on pious theology really, to which one might reply "what's that got to do with the price of fish" ? For what makes one an Israeli ? A desire to be a citizen of and live in the state of Israel. What makes one a Palestinian ? A desire to be a citizen of and live in the state of Palestine. Otherwise both sets are just people inhabiting a piece of land in the Middle East. Whoever the person is you quote so adoringly and copiously is offering a false and deflecting argument typical of leftie American pseudo-intellectual journalists. Human beings having a common heritage, religion or set of political beliefs or through consequences of geography have always tended to come together and set up the apparatus of a state. States then come to arrangements amongst themselves to live as best they can in harmony. That's the real world and not the one you and your hero hope it to be or occupy in your dreams. The right of Israel to exist might be disproved by some nitpicking pedant who wishes to see it obliterated and its inhabitants dispersed. But the mature, influential and powerful countries of the world will not allow this to happen. Nor will Israel stop fighting to prevent this happening. Finally, which other countries that claim the right to exist do not have such a right ? Oh I see, just Israel..... |
| Topic | Date Posted | Posted By |
| Do unto others as you would have them do unto you | 06/12/24 23:41:00 | David Ainsworth |
| Reply | 07/12/24 09:52:00 | Sue Hammond |
| Irrelevant | 07/12/24 11:18:00 | David Ainsworth |
| Re:Reply | 07/12/24 19:28:00 | Lucille Grant |
| Re:Do unto others as you would have them do unto you | 07/12/24 13:10:00 | John Hawkes |
| Reply | 07/12/24 16:20:00 | Michael Ixer |
| Re:Reply | 07/12/24 18:20:00 | David Ainsworth |
| Re:Re:Reply | 07/12/24 19:20:00 | Ed Robinson |
| Re:Reply | 08/12/24 12:08:00 | John Hawkes |
| Re:Re:Reply | 08/12/24 19:41:00 | Philippa Bond |