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Posted by: Michael Ixer
Date/Time: 05/08/26 14:00:00

I think the safety case for 20 mph speed limits is difficult to argue - unless one consider the economic benefits of a few additional road deaths a worthwhile trade off.

I rarely drive these days but one of the last times I used a Zipcar it took over an hour to drive from Croydon to Euston, then to Putney circa 11pm, and recently a morning minicab journey taken by friends from East Putney to St Pancras took an hour and a half; traffic, bus lanes, reconfigured junctions, etc seem to impose a natural traffic speed of less than 20 mph! (Sensible for them as one has mobility issues so with luggage public transport would be a problem. ) Interestingly, minicab drivers constantly on the road and not known for their tardiness seem to cope with 20 mph limits, otherwise they'd lose their jobs ...

I do wonder if use of stick (fines from cameras) rather than carrot (education, cheap public transport, investment in tube lifts, etc) would help with acceptance of speed limits, LTNs, box junctions, etc? Perhaps feed some money from fines back into subsidising public transport? And is it now time to add duty and VAT on aviation fuel in addition to APD?

Errant cyclists are another problem: I nearly got taken out by a cyclist whizzing though a red light at Wigmore Street - another cyclists  stopped at the lights exclaimed "that was a bit close!" (Normally I'm more alert, but I was puffed after running up a static escalator at Bond Street - I'm assuming it wasn't a planned "hit job" by someone on this forum :-)!)



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TopicDate PostedPosted By
20mph TYRANNY04/08/26 20:53:00 Richard Carter
   Re:20mph TYRANNY04/08/26 21:07:00 Jonathan Callaway
      Re:Re:20mph TYRANNY04/08/26 21:46:00 Steven Rose
         Re:Re:Re:20mph TYRANNY04/08/26 22:11:00 Jonathan Callaway
            Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph TYRANNY04/08/26 23:34:00 Steven Rose
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph TYRANNY04/08/26 23:53:00 Michael Brigo
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph TYRANNY05/08/26 00:35:00 Steven Rose
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph TYRANNY05/08/26 09:00:00 Barbara Stevens
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph TYRANNY05/08/26 09:02:00 Barbara Stevens
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph TYRANNY05/08/26 10:07:00 Michael Brigo
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph TYRANNY05/08/26 11:07:00 Steven Rose
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph TYRANNY05/08/26 11:49:00 Michael Brigo
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph TYRANNY05/08/26 12:21:00 Barbara Stevens
                                 Reply05/08/26 12:51:00 Sue Hammond
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph TYRANNY05/08/26 13:12:00 Philippa Bond
                                    Reply05/08/26 15:03:00 Sue Hammond
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph TYRANNY05/08/26 12:52:00 Ivonne Holliday
   Reply05/08/26 14:00:00 Michael Ixer

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