Of course, if there is any history left after the climate is done with us. My point is that Steve's assertion that high energy prices are to do with Ed Milliband's 'obsession with net zero', is utter nonsense. Steve has some notion that if oil drilling started again in the North Sea then prices would come tumbling down here! Yes, I know, on every level it is patent nonsense. Part of the reason for high prices here is that there has been next to no investment in the energy grid, just like the water treatment and supply infrastructure. In order to achieve a reliable supply of green energy for the 21st century huge investment is required in both the supply grid and how our energy plants are powered. Most of our plants are powered by very expensive gas brought in from Qatar or the US. Drilling for North Sea oil 'aint going to make an iota of difference to price. Similarly, switching to wind energy is not going to result in lower prices as there is a huge cost of investment which, if we don't want to pay for it, needs to come from private investors. The same applies to nuclear power; it takes time and investment, and planning reform, to bring it on line. This idea that North Sea Oil is the answer is incorrect. If we are looking for energy security and reliability, then the only option is to invest in green energy and de-carbonise the grid, even if, like Steve, you don't give two hoots about the environment, climate change, or international binding agreements that we signed up for, let alone future generations.

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Topic	Date Posted	Posted By
Greens surge, Labour slumps	28/10/25 10:59:00	Nicholas Evans
Re:Greens surge, Labour slumps	28/10/25 13:07:00	Andy Pike
Re:Re:Greens surge, Labour slumps	28/10/25 16:19:00	Michael Brigo
Re:Re:Re:Greens surge, Labour slumps	28/10/25 16:47:00	Andy Pike
Re:Re:Re:Re:Greens surge, Labour slumps	30/10/25 02:01:00	Ed Robinson
Re:Greens surge, Labour slumps	28/10/25 17:09:00	Ivonne Holliday
Reply	28/10/25 17:22:00	Martine Guy
Re:Reply	28/10/25 19:50:00	Gerry Boyce
Re:Re:Greens surge, Labour slumps	28/10/25 17:38:00	Steven Rose
Reply	28/10/25 17:54:00	Martine Guy
Re:Re:Re:Greens surge, Labour slumps	28/10/25 19:59:00	Gerry Boyce
Re:Re:Re:Greens surge, Labour slumps	29/10/25 07:54:00	Richard Carter
Re:Re:Re:Re:Greens surge, Labour slumps	29/10/25 08:36:00	Judy Allen
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Greens surge, Labour slumps	29/10/25 09:04:00	Steven Rose
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Greens surge, Labour slumps	29/10/25 09:39:00	Richard Carter
Reply	29/10/25 09:42:00	Michael Ixer
Re:Reply	29/10/25 11:10:00	Gerry Boyce
Re:Reply	29/10/25 12:46:00	Steven Rose
Re:Re:Reply	29/10/25 13:24:00	Michael Brigo
Re:Re:Reply	29/10/25 13:50:00	Gerry Boyce
Reply	29/10/25 13:56:00	Michael Ixer
Re:Reply	29/10/25 14:10:00	Robert Wheeler
Re:Re:Reply	29/10/25 14:24:00	Michael Brigo
Re:Reply	29/10/25 14:26:00	Steven Rose
Re:Re:Reply	29/10/25 14:39:00	Michael Brigo
Re:Re:Re:Reply	29/10/25 15:06:00	Robert Wheeler
Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply	29/10/25 15:09:00	Michael Brigo
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply	29/10/25 15:26:00	Robert Wheeler
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply	29/10/25 15:34:00	John Hawkes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply	29/10/25 17:00:00	Michael Brigo
Re:Re:Re:Reply	29/10/25 15:18:00	Steven Rose
Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply	29/10/25 21:34:00	Michael Brigo
Re:Reply	29/10/25 16:25:00	Gerry Boyce
Re:Re:Reply	29/10/25 17:11:00	Steven Rose
Re:Re:Re:Reply	29/10/25 19:19:00	Michael Brigo
Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply	29/10/25 20:26:00	Philippa Bond
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply	29/10/25 20:34:00	Gerry Boyce
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply	29/10/25 20:43:00	Steven Rose
Reply	29/10/25 21:23:00	Michael Ixer
Re:Reply	29/10/25 22:12:00	Steven Rose
Re:Reply	30/10/25 11:22:00	John Hawkes
Reply	30/10/25 21:43:00	Michael Ixer
Re:Reply	31/10/25 15:45:00	John Hawkes
Reply	31/10/25 22:45:00	Michael Ixer
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply	30/10/25 10:55:00	John Hawkes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply	31/10/25 15:44:00	Ivonne Holliday
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply	01/11/25 11:06:00	John Hawkes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply	02/11/25 01:47:00	Ed Robinson

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